August 26, 2025

'Witness'

The Ringer's Bill Simmons and Mallory Rubin revisit the 1985 crime thriller set in Amish country, 'Witness,' featuring Harrison Ford, Kelly McGillis, Lukas Haas, and Viggo Mortensen.

Movie poster

Cast

Harrison Ford as Detective John Book

Kelly McGillis as Rachel Lapp

Lukas Haas as Samuel Lapp

Danny Glover as McFee

Alexander Godunov as Daniel Hochleitner

Viggo Mortensen as Moses Hochleitner

Directed by: Peter Weir

Music by: Maurice Jarre

Notes

  • Budget of $12 million, grossed $117.1 million. Became #1 in its 5th week.
  • 8 Oscar nominations including Best Picture and Best Actor (Ford). Won 2 (Screenplay, Editing). Ford's only Oscar nomination ever.
  • Peter Weir's first American movie. He cut multiple pages of dialogue from the ending; the final scene between Book and Rachel has almost no words.
  • The barn raising was only a paragraph in the script but became a riveting 5-minute scene.
  • Kelly McGillis was discovered while waitressing at a coffee shop; Weir said all American actresses were 'too hip.'
  • Viggo Mortensen's first film ever (he has ~2 lines as Moses).
  • No actual Amish appear in the film (they don't allow being photographed); extras were Mennonites.
  • Weir and cinematographer John Seale visited a Vermeer exhibit at the 'Philadelphia' Museum of Art and lit the movie like Dutch Master paintings.
  • Alexander Godunov (Daniel) was a ballet dancer who dated Jacqueline Bisset; died of alcoholism in his early 40s.
  • Harrison Ford chose the Sam Cooke song for the barn scene. He had auditioned for a Folgers commercial early in career (hence the coffee joke in the film).
  • Lucas Haas was 7-8 during filming; Weir didn't show him the fake murder but instead told him he was 'letting the movie down' to get genuine fear in his eyes.

Categories

Roger Ebert's review

Quote from Rog's review:

Electrifying and poignant love story. Witness arrives like a fresh new day – a movie about adults whose lives have dignity and whose choices matter to them.

Ebert gave it 4 stars. Said 'Ford has never given a better performance in a movie.' Also called it 'one hell of a thriller.'

Most re-watchable scene
  • Mallory: Book and Rachel dancing in the barn to Sam Cooke's cover – 'the single easiest category pick for me in any pod we've ever done. Maybe my favorite scene in a movie ever.' She has filmed her TV during this scene multiple times. 'This movie is about yearning... that taught me what sex was, even though it's not a sex scene.'
  • Bill: The bad guys showing up / final shootout sequence – the corn silo murder, Samuel ringing the bell, the Amish community walking toward Schaeffer as witnesses.
  • Also nominated: Samuel witnessing the murder in the train station bathroom; the sponge bath scene; the barn raising; Book punching the tourist.
The most 1985 thing about this movie
  • Bill: The electronic Maurice Jarre score (great but completely dated to 1985). Also: Book hides the address on a piece of paper and Schaeffer can't find it – wouldn't happen with computers.
  • Mallory: The 'Honey, That's Great' Folgers coffee joke; Elaine the sister (mullet, bathrobe, guy over).
What aged the best?
  • Mallory: The script's restraint – no dialogue in the final scene. Harrison Ford's 80s run. The visual filmmaking (Vermeer-inspired lighting). Dirty cop themes.
  • Bill: Lukas Haas eventually joining Leo's 'pussy posse.' The milking scene ('not one this big'). Harrison Ford holding a cat.
What aged the worst?
  • Mallory: Amish beards (no mustache rule). The electronic score (great but completely dated).
  • Bill: The 1985 Best Picture race – Out of Africa won over this. The Academy Award results from 1985 have aged the worst. Also: racially profiling the suspect.
Best needle drop

The Sam Cooke cover in the barn dance scene – the only scene with real music in the film. Ford picked the song. They couldn't get rights to Sam Cooke's actual recording, so it's a cover. Mallory: 'This is a fantastic, fantastic needle drop.'

Most cinematic shot
  • Bill and Mallory: The sponge bath scene – cameras, mirrors, lighting all working together. 'Vermeer-level filmmaking.'
  • Also: Samuel's eyes through the crack in the bathroom stall door (cinematographer Seale said it was slightly out of focus but Weir picked it for the performance).
Weak link of the movie
  • Bill: Rachel moves on from her dead husband Jacob suspiciously fast.
  • Mallory: Book isn't concerned enough about partner Carter and sister Elaine's safety. Also: Daniel literally hits on Rachel at her husband's funeral.
The hottest take award
  • Mallory: Harrison Ford's only Oscar nomination ever – 'one of the great injustices in Hollywood history.'
  • Bill: The movie doesn't care about the cop stuff – 'if it was interested in the cops, we would have spent more time in the police station.'
Casting what-ifs
  • Redford wanted to be in the movie, approached the producers – they pushed it off because 'he had the reputation for coming in and starting to change stuff.'
  • Kelly McGillis discovered while waitressing at a coffee shop. Weir said all American actresses were 'too hip' so he started looking in Italy before finding her.
  • Kubrick wanted Lukas Haas for Danny Torrance in 'The Shining' (unavailable).
Best "that guy"

Bill: Book's partner – 'most famously in Another 48 Hours, a terrible movie I've watched 12 times.'

Half-assed (internet) research
  • Weir and Seale visited a Vermeer exhibit at the 'Philadelphia' Museum of Art and used Dutch Master lighting throughout.
  • The screenplay was originally an unproduced Gunsmoke script.
  • Viggo Mortensen's first film ever – he has about 2 lines.
  • Alexander Godunov was a ballet dancer who dated Jacqueline Bisset; died of alcoholism.
  • Ford chose the Sam Cooke song; had auditioned for a Folgers commercial early in career.
Apex Mountain
  • Harrison Ford: His only Oscar nomination – 'this is the performance that should have won him the Oscar. One of the great injustices.'
  • Peter Weir: Possibly – but 'Dead Poets Society' and Truman Show also compete.
  • Amish movies: Yes.
  • Corn in movies: Yes (corn silo murder scene).
Cruise or Hanks?
Hanks wins

Hanks. (Not extensively debated – Ford is so perfect for this.)

Scorsese or Spielberg?

Not formally discussed in the transcript – both would be interesting but it's Peter Weir's movie.

What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman play?

One of the Amish men – possibly Daniel (the Godunov role).

Picking nits
  • The Folgers coffee joke – a very specific 1985 reference that doesn't land now.
  • Daniel hitting on Rachel at her husband's funeral.
  • Nobody eats or goes to the bathroom for the entire time Book is hiding.
Just one Oscar, who gets it?

Ford for Best Actor (which he was nominated for and should have won over William Hurt for Kiss of the Spider Woman).

What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?

The corn from the corn silo murder scene. Also: Book's gun (the one Rachel returns to him).

Best (or worst!) life lessons from the movie

Sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is be a witness.

Best double feature for this movie

A Harrison Ford thriller double – 'The Fugitive' or Patriot Games.

Who won the movie?

Harrison Ford – his only Oscar nomination, his best performance according to Ebert, and the movie that proved he could act beyond action/adventure.