February 20, 2023

'Whiplash'

The Ringer's Bill Simmons and Sean Fennessey determine whether they're rushers or draggers after rewatching Damien Chazelle's 2014 classic 'Whiplash,' starring Miles Teller and J.K. Simmons.

Movie poster

Cast

Miles Teller as Andrew Neiman

J.K. Simmons as Terence Fletcher

Paul Reiser as Jim Neiman

Directed by: Damien Chazelle

Written by: Damien Chazelle

Notes

  • Roger Ebert passed away in April 2013 – no Ebert review for this 2014 film.

Categories

Most re-watchable scene
  • The ending / last 25 minutes – from the jazz bar scene through the final Caravan performance.
  • The 'rushing or dragging' scene – the most iconic moment, used in the trailer, parodied on SNL.
  • The jazz bar scene where Fletcher gives the Charlie Parker speech.
What aged the best?
  • Every father-son scene with Miles Teller and Paul Reiser.
  • Miles Teller as a drummer and J.K. Simmons as a conductor – both completely believable.
  • The name 'Fletcher' – a fletcher is a person who puts feathers on arrows, i.e., preparing the next Bird.
  • J.K. Simmons got two cracked ribs after Teller tackled him and kept filming for two more days.
Best needle drop

Hard to pick – many songs that sound like classic jazz standards were actually written by Justin Hurwitz specifically for the film. Hurwitz and Nicholas Britell (Succession composer) wrote a song together on the soundtrack that sounds like it was recorded in 1937.

Most cinematic shot
  • The opening scene.
  • Bloody hand in the ice water / pitcher.
  • The ending sequence – camera going back and forth between the drumming and J.K. Simmons getting more and more excited.
Weak link of the movie

The girlfriend subplot – missing one scene to make us feel the connection/loss. She appears 4 times plus the phone call breakup.

What aged the worst?
  • The mean-spirited insults would be too unrealistic now – someone would have recorded Fletcher and reported him.
  • 'Double fucking rainbow' reference – nobody under 22 would know what that was.
The hottest take award
  • Sean: 'Whiplash' is still by far Chazelle's best movie, better than La La Land.
  • Bill: Emma Stone was market-corrected by Melissa Benoist – if Benoist never happens, maybe Stone is in La La Land.
Casting what-ifs
  • Dane DeHaan was reportedly offered the Miles Teller role and didn't take it.
  • Johnny Simmons played the role in the short film; Teller got it because he was a bigger name.
Over-acting award

The Happy Meal kid scene – Fletcher destroying the kid.

Best "that guy"

Chris Mulkey as the uncle – IMDB goes back to 48 Hours and 'First Blood', was Hank on Twin Peaks, ~300 credits.

Re-casting couch
  • Simmons and Teller are untouchable – perfect casting.
  • Robin Williams floated for the Paul Reiser role.
Half-assed (internet) research
  • Budget $3.3 million, grossed $49 million.
  • Based on Chazelle's experience at Princeton High School – had a band instructor who died in 2003.
  • Teller had been drumming since age 15; took additional lessons 4 hrs/day, 3 days/week.
  • The Charlie Parker cymbal story is slightly inaccurate – the cymbal was thrown to the floor, not at Parker's head.
  • Filmed in 20 days.
  • J.K. Simmons really slapped Miles Teller in the takes they used.
  • Won 3 Oscars: Best Supporting Actor, Best Film Editing, Best Sound Mixing.
Apex Mountain
  • J.K. Simmons – yes, absolutely.
  • Miles Teller – not yet at the time (now maybe Maverick).
  • Damien Chazelle – La La Land technically, but 'Whiplash' is the birth of it.
  • Caravan (the song) – no question.
Picking nits
  • Why doesn't the rest of the band ever speak up about Fletcher's obsession with the drummer?
  • Andrew rents a car instead of getting a taxi when the bus breaks down – renting a car takes 20 minutes and he's 19.
  • Leaving the scene of a car accident – wouldn't he go to jail?
  • Would Fletcher really sabotage a live JVC performance just to get revenge on Andrew? He loves jazz too much for that.
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?

Untouchable. Don't touch this movie. A prequel about young Fletcher could work.

Would this movie be better with...?

Wayne Jenkins as the uncle.

Just one Oscar, who gets it?

J.K. Simmons – he got it, and he deserved it.

(Probably) unanswerable questions
  • Is Fletcher actually good at his job / actually gifted musically?
  • Does this method of cruel coaching actually produce greatness?
  • Who took the 'Whiplash' music folder?
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?
  • The two bloody drumsticks.
  • The chair Fletcher threw at Andrew.
Best (or worst!) life lessons from the movie

There's a price to being great. Do you want to pay the price or not?

Best double feature for this movie
  • Tar – obvious pairing (but that's a long, grueling day).
  • 'An Officer and a Gentleman' – different eras of the cruel mentor genre.
Who won the movie?

Damien Chazelle – 'the ultimate calling card movie.' Simmons wins the movie when you're watching it, but Chazelle won the career trajectory.

Producer review

Craig Horlbeck: was 19 when it came out, a film major in college – 'a film major's wet dream.' Students recreated scenes for classes. At 19 he wanted that coach, wanted to be pushed to his breaking point. Now older, he's less sure.