June 23, 2022

'The Untouchables'

The Ringer's Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan are nothing but a lot of talk and a badge after revisiting Brian De Palma's 1987 crime drama 'The Untouchables' starring Kevin Costner, Sean Connery, and Robert De Niro.

Movie poster

Cast

Kevin Costner as Eliot Ness

Sean Connery as Jim Malone

Robert De Niro as Al Capone

Andy Garcia as George Stone

Charles Martin Smith as Oscar Wallace

Patricia Clarkson as Catherine Ness

Billy Drago as Frank Nitti

Directed by: Brian De Palma

Written by: David Mamet

Music by: Ennio Morricone

Notes

  • $25 million budget; made $106 million at the box office.
  • Nominated for four Academy Awards: Art Direction, Score, Costume Design, Best Supporting Actor (Connery won).
  • Opening credit reads 'Wardrobe by Giorgio Armani.'
  • The train station shootout (Odessa Steps homage) was improvised because they ran out of money for the original big train shootout. De Palma said 'Get me a baby carriage, a clock, and some steps.'
  • De Niro made $1.5 million for 18 days of work. He gained 30 pounds and was 'very concerned about the shape of his face.'
  • Bob Hoskins was originally cast as Capone; when De Niro took the role, De Palma sent Hoskins his $200,000 fee. Hoskins replied: 'Are there any more films you don't want me to be in?'
  • Don Johnson was De Palma's first choice for Ness (recommended by Armani) but couldn't get out of his 'Miami Vice' contract. Mickey Rourke also turned it down.
  • Most of the historical events depicted never happened: the Canadian border scene, courthouse/railway station shootouts, Ness killing Nitti, and Ness's unit had very little to do with Capone's actual tax evasion conviction.
  • Pauline Kael's review: 'Not a great movie – too banal, too morally comfortable... but a great audience movie, a wonderful pot boiler.'

Categories

Roger Ebert's review

Quote from Rog's review:

De Palma's Untouchables depends more on cliches than on artistic invention.
  • Bill: Pauline Kael called it 'not a great movie – too banal, too morally comfortable, but a great audience movie, a wonderful pot boiler.'
  • Chris: Agrees with Kael's 'great audience movie' assessment.
Most re-watchable scene
  • Bill: The opening Capone scene – the overhead shot, the barbershop shaving, De Niro getting nicked.
  • Bill: 'You want to get Capone? Here's how you get him.' – Ness meets Malone in the police station and they go to church.
  • Bill: The Capone baseball bat scene – became the second most famous scene from the movie.
  • Bill: Malone does the fake murder to get the witness to talk in Canada – shoots the dead guy.
  • Bill and Chris: The baby carriage / train station gunfight scene (the Battleship Potemkin / Odessa Steps homage).
  • Bill: Ness throwing Nitti off the roof.
  • Chris: The courthouse stuff at the end – switching the juries, the final confrontation.
What aged the best?
  • Bill: Prohibition as a story setting – 'great times for content.'
  • Chris: De Niro is just doing Trump – holding court in opulent apartment buildings. 'He's at Mar-a-Lago.'
  • Bill: The comedy of Connery's bad accent – 'spectacular how not Irish it is.'
  • Bill: Young Costner – 'most handsome, most charismatic.'
  • Chris: Ennio Morricone's score – 'one of my favorite Morricone scores.'
  • Chris: Mamet's dialogue – 'I need your help, I am asking you for help.'
Best needle drop

Bill: The Ennio Morricone opening theme over the credits.

Most cinematic shot

Chris: The split diopter shot in the church – Costner fully in focus and Connery fully in focus at the same time.

Weak link of the movie

Bill: Patricia Clarkson as Ness's wife – 'there's no reason for her to be in this movie.' The wife scenes are underwritten.

What aged the worst?
  • Bill: Connery's accent – voted one of the worst accents in movie history.
  • Bill: Being shocked that Connery dies – in 1987 it was shocking, now you know it's coming.
  • Chris: The second scene (the kid getting blown up) – takes 15 minutes for the movie to get going.
The hottest take award
  • Chris: Ness basically sentenced Oscar to death by putting the accountant on witness duty instead of Stone, who's a great shot.
  • Bill: 1987 was Costner's greatest movie year – 'The Untouchables' and 'No Way Out'.
Casting what-ifs
  • Don Johnson was De Palma's first choice for Ness (recommended by Armani) but couldn't get out of 'Miami Vice'.
  • Mickey Rourke turned down the role of Ness.
  • Bob Hoskins was cast as Capone, then De Niro decided he wanted the part. De Palma mailed Hoskins $200,000 with a 'sorry' note.
  • Jeff Bridges and Tommy Lee Jones were seriously considered for Ness.
Over-acting award
  • Chris: The bowtie gangster who holds the bookkeeper hostage in the train station.
  • Bill: De Niro in the 'You got nothing' courtroom scene – 'He dials it up in an unusual De Niro way.'
Best "that guy"
  • Bill's winner: Billy Drago as Nitti – 'great face, I really hated him.'
  • Bill: Jack Kehoe (his personal pick – 'moron number two' from 'Midnight Run').
  • Chris: Chelcie Ross (Ed in 'Major League') and Brad Sullivan (the 'tell me what you want to know' guy in Canada).
Best "heat check" performance
  • Bill and Chris: The baby in the train station scene – 'Great job by the baby. Looks at the ceiling, seems like it does what it's asked.' The baby was the stuntman's son.
  • Bill: De Niro as Capone – eligible, in only about five scenes.
  • Bill: Billy Drago as Nitti – eligible.
Half-assed (internet) research
  • De Niro wanted one extra scene and time to finish his Broadway commitment, plus he wanted to gain 30 pounds.
  • De Niro was 'very concerned about the shape of his face' for the part.
  • Costner met with former FBI agent/untouchable Al Wolff to prepare.
  • The railway station shootout was parodied in Naked Gun 33 1/3.
  • The Canadian border scene, Ness killing Nitti – never happened in real life. Nitti died by suicide.
Apex Mountain
  • Costner: No – great year but bigger things to come.
  • De Palma: No – if going big budget, it's 'Mission: Impossible'; if going peak career, it's 'Blow Out'.
  • De Niro: No.
  • Older Connery: No – it's The Rock.
  • Al Capone: Yes – this is it.
  • Mid-80s Chicago movies: Both say Ferris Bueller.
Picking nits
  • Bill: Why would Ness let a photographer take a picture of his new crew when he's suspicious of everybody?
  • Chris: The baby carriage bouncing down the steps – 'that's a lot of bouncing in a 1930s carriage.'
  • Chris: A lot of sailors get killed trying to help in the train station – 'if I'm a sailor and my first buddy gets mowed down, I'm out.'
  • Bill: How was it this hard to take down Al Capone?
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?
  • Bill: Acknowledges it could work, though Boardwalk Empire stepped on it a bit.
  • Chris: Mentions the unmade Fincher project 'Torso' about Elliot Ness hunting the first serial killer – Fincher basically did Mindhunter instead.
Would this movie be better with...?
  • Bill: Steve Buscemi – 'right before Oscar gets his throat sliced.'
  • Bill: Wayne Jenkins (from We Own This City) – would have been incredible paired with Stone.
Just one Oscar, who gets it?
  • Connery won Best Supporting Actor, beating Albert Brooks ('Broadcast News'), Morgan Freeman (Street Smart), and Denzel Washington (Cry Freedom).
  • Bill: Would give it to Albert Brooks if he could redo it – 'I can't get over the accent' for Connery.
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?
  • Bill: The baseball bat from the Capone scene.
  • Chris: The St. Jude charm that Connery has – patron saint of lost causes.
Best (or worst!) life lessons from the movie
  • Bill: Trust nobody.
  • Bill: 'If you're afraid of getting a rotten apple, don't go to the barrel – get it off the tree.'
Best double feature for this movie
  • Chris: Scarface – two incredible De Palma crime epics.
  • Bill: 'No Way Out' – a Costner 1987 doubleheader.
Who won the movie?
  • Bill: Costner – had to prove he could be the leading man, and once he did, the next ten years fell into place.
  • Chris and Craig: Connery – 'just so magnetic' in a supporting slot. Winner 2-1.
Producer review
  • Craig: First time seeing the movie. Liked it a lot – 'four just awesome scenes that really capture you.'
  • Craig: Never really bought that Ness goes so quickly from family-man to 'I'll kill anyone' just because someone threatened his family.