July 12, 2022

'Top Gun: Maverick'

It's not the podcast, it's the podcaster. The Ringer's Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan take a seat at the Hard Deck to revisit the instant classic 'Top Gun: Maverick', starring Tom Cruise, Miles Teller, and Jennifer Connelly.

Movie poster

Cast

Tom Cruise as Pete 'Maverick' Mitchell

Miles Teller as Rooster (Bradley Bradshaw)

Glen Powell as Hangman

Jennifer Connelly as Penny Benjamin

Val Kilmer as Iceman

Jon Hamm as Cyclone

Ed Harris as Rear Admiral

Charles Parnell as Warlock

Monica Barbaro as Phoenix

Jay Ellis as Payback

Directed by: Joseph Kosinski

Written by: Christopher McQuarrie

Cinematography by: Claudio Miranda

Produced by: Jerry Bruckheimer

Notes

  • First time a movie still in theaters was done as a Rewatchable.
  • $170M budget, crossed $1.2 billion global box office.
  • Bill considers it the biggest action movie since 'The Dark Knight' and the biggest movie of Cruise's career.
  • Bill argues it should be in the Mount Rushmore of best sequels ever (alongside Godfather 2, Dark Knight, Terminator 2).
  • 36 years between the original and the sequel – possibly a record.
  • Tony Scott was originally supposed to direct the sequel; he died in 2012.
  • The movie was delayed from summer 2019 through COVID – essentially in the can since end of 2018.
  • Actors were in planes for three months, did their own makeup and lighting in cockpits – no CGI for flight sequences.
  • Beach football montage was shot twice because Cruise didn't like the first version.
  • Miles Teller learned to play Great Balls of Fire on piano himself, no double. Cast got to choose their own call signs.
  • Cruise's plane at the end is his actual P-51 Mustang.
  • Bill saw it twice in three days, the second time bringing his iPad to take notes (bought the seat next to him so he wouldn't annoy anyone).

Categories

Most re-watchable scene
  • Bill: Mach 10 / Dark Star opening sequence with Ed Harris and buzzing the tower.
  • Bill: The Great Balls of Fire bar scene – Miles Teller playing piano, Cruise being shaken by the Goose flashback.
  • Bill: Cruise and Kilmer scene – Iceman typing, the hug, the emotional reunion. 'One of the great scenes in the history of the Rewatchables.'
  • Bill (winner): Cruise and Kilmer scene into dogfight football as the best 10-minute rewatchable sequence.
  • Chris: The last 35 minutes – specifically when they cut the music for 12-15 minutes during the mission launch.
What aged the best?
  • Bill: Jennifer Connelly – 'lights out,' most convincing Cruise love interest since Renee Zellweger in 'Jerry Maguire'.
  • Bill: The Goose/Rooster resemblance – Miles Teller and Anthony Edwards looking like father and son.
  • Bill: The lack of CGI, authentic filmmaking with actors in real planes.
  • Chris: No geopolitics – just 'the enemy,' keeping it timeless.
  • Chris: The timeless fashion – white t-shirts, leather jackets, blue jeans, aviator shades.
Best needle drop
  • Bill: 'Slow Ride' by Foghat wins.
  • Chris: 'Won't Get Fooled Again' by The Who during the dogfight training scene.
  • 'Danger Zone' and 'Great Balls of Fire' returning from the original.
Most cinematic shot
  • Chris: Dagger One taking off from the flight deck, battleship receding behind.
  • Chris: Maverick breaking the valley run, popping off the desert floor with twin cyclones behind him.
  • Bill (winner): The sailing scene with Jennifer Connelly – 'like a Ralph Lauren ad.'
Weak link of the movie
  • Bill: The supporting pilots needed more – Jay Ellis had four lines, Bob is 'basically brain damage.'
  • Bill: Phoenix was a 'huge mess' – wanted more from the character. 'If that had been 2004, Michelle Rodriguez...'
  • Chris disagrees – thought Phoenix was awesome. Craig had no problem with Phoenix either.
What aged the worst?
  • Bill: Cruise's pre-movie message to the audience – reading off cue cards.
  • Bill: Jennifer Connelly's Penny is an impossible fantasy – smoking hot single bar owner with a Porsche who knows how to sail.
  • Bill: Cruise's dyed black hair – 'ludicrous, he's 60 years old.'
  • Bill: New soundtrack singles (Lady Gaga, OneRepublic) pale compared to original's iconic songs.
The hottest take award
  • Chris (credited to Alison Wilmore on Vulture): The 'death dream' theory – Maverick dies at the beginning going past Mach 10, and everything else is his afterlife/purgatory. Bill: 'I think it's what happened.'
  • Bill: Penny Benjamin doesn't exist as a real person – 'no movie has ever gone that far.'
Casting what-ifs
  • Nicholas Hoult, Glenn Powell, and Miles Teller were the three finalists for Rooster – all flown to Cruise's home for chemistry tests, Cruise picked Teller over Powell.
  • Lewis Pullman (Bill Pullman's son) plays Bob.
Over-acting award
  • Both pick Glenn Powell – 'dials it up,' especially when he saves the day at the end ('pouring gravy and hot sauce on that scene').
  • Chris: Ed Harris as a runner-up.
Best "that guy"
  • Both say Charles Parnell (Warlock) is the winner.
  • Hondo (Bashir Salahuddin) discussed but deemed more well-known from South Side.
Best "heat check" performance
  • Chris: Hondo (Bashir Salahuddin) – the 'it's been an honor, captain' scene.
  • Bill: Val Kilmer wins – one scene, barely speaks, types on a computer, and it's one of the most powerful cameos ever.
Re-casting couch
  • Bill: Jenna Ortega as Phoenix.
  • Bill: Sydney Sweeney as Phoenix.
Half-assed (internet) research
  • In 1990, Cruise dismissed the notion of a sequel as 'irresponsible.'
  • Kosinski pitched Cruise two ideas – one about the Maverick/Rooster relationship, one about the Dark Star program.
  • University of Georgia professor found U.S. military officers were allowed to make script changes including recruitment talking points.
  • They paid the Navy $11,374 per flight hour for the F-18s.
  • The sailboat (J-125) was in San Francisco Bay, no stunt doubles.
  • Bruckheimer insisted on putting the Don Simpson credit back on the movie.
Apex Mountain
  • Post-prime Tom Cruise: Yes – this is his Apex Mountain post-Oprah's-couch. Biggest movie in years.
  • Jennifer Connelly: Debated – she won an Oscar, but 'in our heads' this is it.
  • Joe Kosinski: Definitely.
  • 1973 Porsche 911: Yes.
  • Jon Hamm: No, not Apex. But interesting: he's in two of the most rewatchable movies of the last 15 years (this and 'The Town'), basically the same guy in both.
Picking nits
  • Jon Hamm's Cyclone makes terrible decisions – jeopardizes national security because he doesn't like Maverick.
  • None of the young pilots have any personal life – no girlfriends, boyfriends, nothing.
  • Mav crashes, Rooster crashes, they land close enough to sprint through the forest, and there's conveniently an airstrip with an F-14.
  • Surviving ejection at Mach 10.2 (7,600 mph) is physically impossible.
Would this movie be better with...?

Wayne Jenkins (Jon Bernthal) as Cyclone wins – Bill and Chris do a full Wayne Jenkins impression.

Just one Oscar, who gets it?
  • Both agree: Joe Kosinski for Best Director.
  • Chris also mentions Claudio Miranda (cinematographer) as an alternative.
(Probably) unanswerable questions
  • Where were they during the final battle? Iran or North Korea most likely.
  • Does Tom Cruise have a real-life death wish?
  • Are we sure Maverick isn't gay? Never married, no kids, still upset about Goose 35 years later.
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?

Bill: The Porsche is the only answer; runner-up is Cruise's leather bomber jacket.

Best (or worst!) life lessons from the movie
  • Chris: 'It's not the plane, it's the pilot.'
  • Bill: 'Don't think, just do.'
Best double feature for this movie

Obviously the original 'Top Gun' (1986) – no other answer considered.

Who won the movie?
  • Chris: Tom Cruise, with Connelly lurking.
  • Bill: Jennifer Connelly won the movie.