September 18, 2023

'A Bronx Tale'

The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Sean Fennessey, and Van Lathan would rather be feared than loved after rewatching Robert De Niro's directorial debut film, 'A Bronx Tale,' starring Chazz Palminteri, De Niro, and Lillo Brancato Jr.

Movie poster

Cast

Robert De Niro as Lorenzo

Lillo Brancato Jr. as Calogero 'C' (age 17)

Francis Capra as Young Calogero (age 9)

Taral Hicks as Jane Williams

Joe Pesci as Carmine (funeral scene)

Directed by: Robert De Niro

Written by: Chazz Palminteri

Notes

  • Lillo Brancato Jr.'s real-life trajectory mirrors the film's central theme: 'the saddest thing in life is wasted talent.' He had drug problems even during filming, later went to prison for a robbery where an off-duty cop died, and the New York Post headline read 'Wasted Talent.' He appeared in The Sopranos Season 2 as Matt Bevilaqua.
  • Bill's big hot take: 'A Bronx Tale' influenced The Sopranos more than any other movie. Sonny's character deeply influenced Tony Soprano – the likable anti-hero, neighborhood boss, self-aware but self-destructive. Sean refined it: Tony is a 'corrupted screensaver version of Sonny.'
  • $10 million budget; grossed $17.3 million. Got 'dumped' by studios. De Niro produced it himself through Tribeca Productions.
  • Chazz Palminteri did the 'Stallone/Rocky' move – bet on himself, refused to sell unless he could play Sonny. De Niro agreed to direct, play Lorenzo, and let Chazz play Sonny.
  • Chazz's real name is Calogero Lorenzo Palminteri. Sonny was based on two real guys combined; Chazz did witness a killing as a young boy; his father was named Lorenzo and was a bus driver.
  • They couldn't find anyone to play Eddie Mush so they cast the real Eddie Mush (Eddie Montanaro) – and on his first day of filming it rained.
  • De Niro got his commercial driver's license (Class B) for the role.
  • Katherine Narducci brought her 9-year-old son to audition for young Calogero; De Niro cast her as the wife instead. She later appeared in The Sopranos.
  • Bill notes they 'rarely' have four people on The Rewatchables but 'that's how good 'A Bronx Tale' is.'
  • Van had an emotional moment discussing the boxing match scene – connected to his own experience having lost his father.

Categories

Roger Ebert's review

Quote from Rog's review:

It's very funny, very touching, filled with life and called for characters and great lines of dialogue.

Bill reads the review. De Niro in his debut as director 'finds the right notes as he moves from laughter to anger to tears while retaining its values.'

Most re-watchable scene
  • Bill: The craps game scene (Eddie Mush, Frankie Coffee Cake, the kid throwing dice).
  • Chris: 'Now youse can't leave' (the biker bar scene), plus De Niro confronting Sonny ('stay away from my son').
  • Sean: De Niro confronting Sonny in the bar.
  • Van: 'Now youse can't leave' plus the friends burning to death in the car.
What aged the best?
  • Bill: Young Calogero / Francis Capra and his hair; the narrator actually working; the mob offers; the Doo Wop/Rat Pack soundtrack; stickball; Taral Hicks's beauty; the nickname 'C.'
  • Sean: The casting of the young people (Francis Capra, Taral Hicks).
  • Van: Interracial relationships (now common); racism/stop-snitching culture still persists.
Best needle drop
  • Bill: The Beatles 'Come Together' and Jimi Hendrix 'All Along the Watchtower.'
  • Chris and Sean: Donald Byrd's 'Cristo Redentor' when C and Jane meet up.
Weak link of the movie

Bill: When C uses the N-word toward Jane – it doesn't add up. She seems to forgive him too easily. The scene feels like a deal-breaker that's glossed over.

What aged the worst?
  • Bill: The rampant 60s racism; the door test (car locks are automatic now); Lillo Brancato Jr.'s real-life trajectory; C's long jogging scene; 'A Bronx Tale' becoming a musical.
  • Chris: The Mario test; objectifying women.
  • Sean: 'Wasted talent' as a phrase (referring to the musical).
  • Van: The racism; Molotov cocktailing a whole neighborhood.
The hottest take award
  • Bill: 'A Bronx Tale influenced The Sopranos more than any other movie' – Sonny and Tony Soprano are very similar characters.
  • Sean: Lorenzo is a bad dad. He's dishonest – tells his son the working man is the real hero, but 'the working man is the person who gets fucked in this society.'
  • Chris: Lorenzo should have taken the money ($150/week to run numbers).
  • Van: Wanted Sonny to be C's dad instead of Lorenzo.
Casting what-ifs
  • Katherine Narducci brought her 9-year-old son to audition for young Calogero; they cast her as the wife instead.
  • Frank Vincent was supposed to appear as the boss of the mafia family but didn't film it.
  • The actor who played Sonny's killer (Phillip Garberino) lost out to Lillo Brancato Jr. for the role of C.
Over-acting award
  • Bill: $20 Louie (the scene where the guy screams about being treated like a son and stabbed in the heart).
  • Chris: The kid who plays young Tommy/Crazy Mario (the racist one).
Best "that guy"
  • Winner: Joe Pesci – doing his quiet Irishman character 26 years early.
  • Honorable mentions: Katherine Narducci, Dominic Lombardozzi (from The Wire and Entourage), Jimmy Whispers (Clem Caserta), Eddie Mush.
Re-casting couch
  • Bill: Wished there was a recognizable face in C's friend group.
  • Van (all-Black cast remake): Mahershala Ali as Lorenzo, Sterling K. Brown as Sonny, Shameik Moore as C, Jenna Ortega as the love interest. Chris Ryan to direct.
Half-assed (internet) research
  • Chazz says Sonny was based on two real guys combined; he did witness a killing as a young boy.
  • Chazz's real name is Calogero Lorenzo Palminteri.
  • They cast the real Eddie Mush (Eddie Montanaro) – on his first day of filming it rained.
  • Some people think Rob Schneider is one of the biker bar guys (he's not).
  • De Niro got his commercial driver's license (Class B) for the role.
Apex Mountain
  • Chazz Palminteri – debatable between this and 'The Usual Suspects'. Sean argues his Oscar nomination for Bullets Over Broadway might be the actual apex.
  • Lillo Brancato Jr. – yes.
  • Chez Bippy (social clubs) – yes.
  • Crap scenes in movies – yes.
  • Bus drivers in movies – this or Sandra Bullock in Speed.
Most cinematic shot
  • Chris: The lineup of mobsters on the sidewalk looking directly into camera (C's POV).
  • Bill: Sonny getting shot – slow-motion, 'Come here, come here.'
  • Van: Taral Hicks on the bus, lingering camera on her beauty.
  • Sean: Young C's friends chasing the bus with the black kid, but C turns around and sees De Niro giving him a look – caught between two worlds.
Picking nits
  • Would out-of-shape Italian mobsters really beat a biker gang that badly?
  • After the murder, cops show up at 9-year-old C's apartment within seconds. 50 people witnessed it but they only bring the kid to identify the killer.
  • Why didn't Sonny just kill Eddie Mush? He's cursing every bet.
  • Lorenzo's wife says 'I'm going to check on the baby' when C is 9, then she and the baby sister vanish from the movie when C is 17.
  • How much was a purposeful 'Goodfellas' homage vs. copying it?
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?

Bill and Van: All-Black cast version – the other side of the neighborhood.

Would this movie be better with...?
  • Bill added Frank Vincent to the permanent 'better with' category for Italian movies.
  • Full list discussed: Wayne Jenkins, Frank Vincent, Danny Trejo, Catherine Keener, Steve Buscemi, Sam Jackson, JT Walsh, Philip Baker Hall.
Just one Oscar, who gets it?
  • Chris and Van: Chazz Palminteri, Best Supporting Actor.
  • Bill notes the actual 1993 Supporting Actor field: Hackman won for 'Unforgiven'; also nominated were Nicholson, Pacino, David Paymer, Jaye Davidson.
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?
  • Van: The burned car, the Molotov cocktail, the baseball bat.
  • Chris: C's discarded baseball cards (a Mickey Mantle rookie card worth $200K).
  • Bill: Sonny's car.
  • Sean: Lorenzo's bus.
Best double feature for this movie
  • Chris and Van: This Boy's Life (same year, 1993, also De Niro).
  • Sean: Rocco and His Brothers (Visconti).
Best (or worst!) life lessons from the movie

'Is it better to be feared or loved?' / 'The saddest thing in life is wasted talent' / 'Nobody cares' / The door test / The $20 rule / The Mickey Mantle theory / Three great women theory / 'The working man is the tough guy.'

Who won the movie?

Consensus: Chazz Palminteri. His life story, his star-making performance, his bet on himself that paid off.