'Tango and Cash'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons and Shea Serrano have an aversion to getting FUBAR after rewatching the 1989 action classic 'Tango and Cash' starring Sylvester Stallone and Kurt Russell.

Cast
Sylvester Stallone as Ray Tango
Kurt Russell as Gabriel Cash
Jack Palance as Yves Perret
Teri Hatcher as Kiki Tango
Robert Z'Dar as Face
Brion James as Requin
Clint Howard as Prisoner
Michael Jeter as Audio Forger
Directed by: Andrei Konchalovsky
Written by: Randy Feldman
Music by: Harold Faltermeyer
Notes
- The last film released in theaters in the 1980s (December 22, 1989).
- Three directors: Andrei Konchalovsky was fired about 2/3 through; Albert Magnoli ('Purple Rain') and Peter MacDonald finished it.
- Producer Jon Peters wanted the film goofier/campier; Stallone wanted it more serious. The film was 11 weeks behind schedule.
- $54 million budget (over by $20M from the planned $35M), made $120.4 million worldwide. A 'wet print' release – rushed straight to theaters with no advance copies for critics.
- Right after release, a dangerous batch of heroin in the Bronx was stamped 'Tango and Cash,' causing fatal overdoses; NYPD drove around on loudspeakers warning people.
- The 'I hate danish' line was Stallone's dig at ex-wife Brigitte Nielsen (who is Danish).
- In September 2019, Stallone revealed he had a story for a sequel and was talking to Kurt Russell about it.
- Bill argues this is one of the last 'self-aware non-self-aware' 80s action movies – before Last Action Hero (1993) made everything explicitly meta.
- Stallone got the original DP, Barry Sonnenfeld, fired. Sonnenfeld went on to direct many films.
Categories
- Bill: The opening scene – Stallone standing in the highway shooting at the truck, the 'Rambo is a pussy' line, the billion-dollar cocaine bust.
- Bill: The prison sequence – walking in through fire and litter, the electrocution scene.
- Bill (winner): The prison escape – double cross that turns out not to be a double cross, zipline, the stick-through-the-fan, jumping to the electric cable.
- Bill: The strip joint scene – Teri Hatcher drumming, Cash in drag escaping.
- Shea: Walking into prison for the first time – 'I forgot the marshmallows.'
- Bill: The characters cracking jokes in life-threatening situations instead of being scared.
- Bill: Jack Palance winning the Oscar for 'City Slickers' a year later – 'The odds of Jack Palance winning an Oscar after this movie: 70,001.'
- Bill: Young Teri Hatcher – probably her first bigger movie before Seinfeld and Lois & Clark.
- Shea (winner): Kurt Russell as an action star – 'You forget that Kurt Russell belongs in that conversation' with Stallone and Schwarzenegger.
- Bill: The movie created/popularized 'FUBAR.'
- Bill: Yazoo's 'Don't Go' when Teri Hatcher is introduced at the strip joint.
- Shea: The saxophone music when Kurt Russell steps out dressed as a woman.
Bill: The fact that 'Tango and Cash' are super cops who get framed, and everyone immediately believes they were dirty the whole time with zero pushback.
- Bill: The fake newspaper transitions – 'the LA Chronicle' used to bridge scenes; about 12 newspapers in the movie.
- Bill/Shea: The concept of superstar LA hero cops – right at the tail end before Rodney King and Daryl Gates flipped the perception of LAPD.
- Bill: The jump cuts when people die (to avoid an X rating).
- Bill: Unnecessary nude scenes crammed in (80s staple).
- Bill: The fact that there was no Tango & Cash sequel is an outrage. Stallone made multiple 'Rocky' and Rambo sequels, three Expendables, but no Tango & Cash 2.
- Shea: Tango & Cash is the second-best buddy cop movie of the 1980s, behind only 'Beverly Hills Cop'. Better than 'Lethal Weapon'.
- The film was originally called 'The Setup.' Original stars were Stallone and Patrick Swayze. Swayze dropped out to do 'Road House', and Kurt Russell replaced him.
- Bill: If Swayze stays, Kurt Russell possibly ends up in 'Road House' instead – both movies would be slightly worse.
- Robert Z'Dar and Brion James were only supposed to be in 1-2 scenes, but Stallone pushed to expand their roles as they rewrote on the fly.
- Bill: Jack Palance wins easily – 'I don't know what his motivation is for this movie.' Never veers from whatever crazy character he decided to create.
- Shea: Even at the end staring down inevitable death, Palance is 'still throwing out riddles and jokes.'
- Bill: Robert Z'Dar as Face.
- Bill: Brion James, James Hong, and Clint Howard are mentioned but noted as having graduated from 'that guy' status.
- Bill (his pick): The sweating guy from 'Total Recall' (Marc Alaimo).
- Shea (his pick): Michael 'Boogaloo Shrimp' Chambers – the biker clothes guy from Breakin'.
- Craig argues Stallone is bad – 'comedy and Stallone don't mix well.'
- Shea suggests Harrison Ford (Regarding Henry first-20-minutes energy).
- Bill: Keeping Stallone – the unintentional comedy is part of the charm.
- In September 2019, Stallone revealed he has a story written for a potential sequel and had been talking to Kurt Russell.
- The climactic quarry battle was shot in Irwindale, California; every shot used at least 11 cameras; some stunts were so dangerous the stuntmen could only do them once.
- Face (Robert Z'Dar) and Brion James were written into more scenes on the fly at Stallone's request.
- $54 million budget (over by $20M from planned $35M), made $120.4 million.
- Not Stallone, not Kurt Russell (his apex is probably mid-90s, post-'Tombstone').
- Bill: Buddy cop movies in the 80s.
- Bill: Stallone prison movies – debated between this and Lock Up; Shea picks Lock Up.
- Bill: 'Cross the beams' meta moments (character acknowledging another character the actor played) – possibly the apex.
- Bill: 'Lethal Weapon' rip-offs.
- Bill: Why would 'Tango and Cash' cop a plea / plead no contest? They get 18 months for murder.
- Bill: They get transferred to maximum security prison and nobody monitors or questions it.
- Bill: Nobody stakes out Tango's sister's apartment after they escape from prison.
- Bill: Teri Hatcher is a 'stripper who doesn't strip' – she's a drummer in a bikini.
- Bill: Jack Palance's office/lair is in a quarry in the middle of nowhere.
- Shea: The whole movie is one long picking nit.
- Bill: His brain broke trying to figure out the prestige TV version.
- Shea: You can't remake it. Maybe call Michael Mann for an 8-episode Heat-style prestige version.
- Bill: Young Steve Buscemi – 'would have been really good in this movie.' Maybe as Face's sidekick.
- Shea: Buscemi plays Clint Howard's character (the prisoner) with more lines.
Bill: The director – because three different directors accepting Best Director would have been hilarious.
- Bill: Did the movie invent FUBAR?
- Shea: Did the relationship between Cash and Kiki work out?
- Shea: What did they do the next day? They broke out of prison and killed 40 more people.
Bill: Lock Up (1989) – Stallone prison double feature. Shea says watch Tango & Cash first, then Lock Up – 'it gets darker.'
- Shea: Owen's prototype guard dog with the gun in its mouth that explodes.
- Bill: The two belts that 'Tango and Cash' used for the zipline escape.
Shea: If your feet aren't touching the ground, you won't get electrocuted by a power line – that's why birds and squirrels don't get shocked.
Both agree: Kurt Russell won the movie.