October 18, 2022

'Pineapple Express'

The Ringer's Craig Horlbeck, Danny Kelly, and Danny Heifetz feel like a... like a slice of butter melting on top of a big ol' pile of flapjacks after rewatching 'Pineapple Express,' starring Seth Rogen, James Franco, and Danny McBride.

Movie poster

Cast

Seth Rogen as Dale Denton

James Franco as Saul Silver

Gary Cole as Ted Jones

Rosie Perez as Carol

Amber Heard as Angie

Craig Robinson as Matheson

Kevin Corrigan as Budlowski

Bill Hader as Private Miller

Directed by: David Gordon Green

Written by: Seth Rogen, Evan Goldberg

Produced by: Judd Apatow

Notes

  • The trailer used 'Paper Planes' by M.I.A., not actually in the movie. M.I.A. allowed it for the trailer but not the film. The song blew up partly because of the trailer.
  • Seth Rogen originally wrote himself as Saul and Franco as Dale, but they swapped because Franco was so good as Saul.
  • Franco does not smoke weed in real life – his entire performance was acting.
  • Franco created Saul's entire backstory (the bubby, civil engineering interests) – not in the original script.
  • Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg rolled all ~100 cross joints used in the movie themselves.
  • Red was originally supposed to die when first shot, but Danny McBride was so funny they kept him alive.
  • The script was written before 'Superbad' but couldn't get made; 'Superbad' got made first.
  • $26 million budget (wanted $40M but couldn't due to weed subject matter), made $102 million.
  • Ford wouldn't let their car be used in a movie murder, so the Ford Fiesta was changed to a Daewoo Lanos.
  • A promotional billboard in LA had a smoke machine that looked like a joint; people called 911.
  • Seth Rogen improvised 'It smells like God's vagina' and Franco told him it wasn't funny, then stole it for the next take.
  • Brian Cranston read for Ted Jones but Apatow felt he wasn't evil or scary enough – ironic given Breaking Bad.
  • The diner scene at the end was completely improvised.
  • Stormy Daniels appears as a photo of Red's wife on his wall.
  • 'Snicklefritz' was named after a special effects supervisor's nickname for his PA.
  • The hosts note this is one of the best comedy trailers ever, possibly the most memorable of the 21st century.

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Roger Ebert's review

Quote from Rog's review:

It's a quality movie even if the material is unworthy of the treatment. A weed movie made by an auteur.

Ebert gave it 3.5 stars, praising it as 'a druggy comedy that made me laugh' despite the thin premise.

Most re-watchable scene
  • The opening 1937 black-and-white scene with Bill Hader ('Item Nine').
  • Buying weed from Saul / the cross joint scene.
  • Witnessing the Ted Jones murder and fleeing to the woods.
  • The cop scene and car chase with foot through the windshield.
  • Finding Red wedged between the toilet.
  • The hideout/warehouse shootout.
  • The final diner scene – completely improvised, recapping the movie's events.
What aged the best?
  • The country's acceptance/legalization of marijuana – only 4 states still have it illegal.
  • Craig Robinson – 100% approval rate, always great in everything.
  • Danny McBride's performance – you can see him finding Kenny Powers.
  • Franco's aesthetic as Saul – headband, pajamas, perfectly captures a drug dealer.
  • The diner scene – perfectly captures the universal experience of recapping a crazy night at breakfast.
  • Red getting shot seven times and surviving.
What aged the worst?
  • The Amber Heard subplot – could remove entire plotline and movie would be better.
  • A 25-year-old dating a high schooler.
  • Referring to the drug dealers as just 'the Asians' throughout the movie.
  • James Franco's off-screen misconduct allegations.
Best needle drop
  • Electric Avenue to start the movie – sets the tone.
  • Paper Planes by M.I.A. – from the trailer, the most iconic sound associated with the film.
  • Time Will Tell by Bob Marley – plays when Franco cries on the swing set.
Most cinematic shot
  • The foot through the windshield – wide angle from outside the car, most iconic shot of the film.
  • James Franco doing the worm while selling weed to kids.
Weak link of the movie

The Angie/Amber Heard subplot – her character and the high school girlfriend plotline feel unnecessary.

The hottest take award
  • The cross joint scene is boring and could be cut.
  • The movie would be better based on the trailer – disappointed Paper Planes isn't in the actual movie.
Casting what-ifs
  • Rogen was originally Saul and Franco was Dale – they swapped.
  • Olivia Thirlby was supposed to play Angie before being swapped after rehearsals.
  • Brian Cranston read for Ted Jones but Apatow felt he wasn't scary enough – ironic given Breaking Bad.
Over-acting award
  • Rosie Perez – really stepping on the gas.
  • Craig Robinson – lots of over-the-top delivery.
Best "that guy"
  • Gary Cole as Ted Jones – 'the boss from Office Space.'
  • Kevin Corrigan as Budlowski.
Best "heat check" performance
  • Ed Begley Jr. as Angie's dad – 'I will take you outside and fuck you in the street.'
  • Bill Hader in the 1937 opening scene.
  • The mean high school jock kid – 'Time to suck today's dick.'
Re-casting couch
  • Tim Robinson and Sam Richardson suggested for Budlowski and Matheson.
  • Dave Franco suggested as a stand-in for James Franco.
Half-assed (internet) research
  • 'Pineapple Express' was coined in the late 1960s by weather casters for tropical moisture funneled into storms.
  • Saul's civil engineers (Shaughnessy and Bandell) are real people who built what he says.
  • About 180 F-bombs in the movie.
  • Ford refused to let their car be used in a movie murder – changed to Daewoo Lanos.
  • The movie was shipped to theaters under the code name 'Easy Job.'
  • Bubby's actress is the gold lady on a motorized cart in 'Dumb and Dumber'.
Apex Mountain
  • Daewoo Lanos: Definitely yes.
  • Weed in movies: Argument for yes – the title is the strain and 20 minutes is just smoking.
  • Gary Cole: Close but probably peaked with Office Space.
  • Danny McBride: No, Eastbound and Down is his apex.
Picking nits
  • What time period is this movie set in? Modern cell phones but mullets, rat tails, British Knights, '80s cars.
  • After the car chase, there would be a thousand cop cars – no way they just run away.
  • No one actually looks high despite constant smoking (no bloodshot eyes).
  • The dad at dinner is drinking both a Newcastle beer and a glass of milk.
(Probably) unanswerable questions
  • Is there a 'Dumb and Dumber' homage?
  • Is pineapple express (the strain) sativa or indica?
Best double feature for this movie
  • 'This Is the End' – pseudo-sequel, same cast playing themselves.
  • Tropic Thunder – hosts always confuse the two titles.
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?
  • The prostitute pistol (tiny gun Red pulls from the wall).
  • One of the 100 cross joints Rogen and Goldberg rolled.
  • Red's kimono with the Uggs combo.
Best (or worst!) life lessons from the movie

Don't let your drug dealer upsell you.

Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?
  • A prestige TV series about Ted Jones's ascension to drug kingpin.
  • Red as a standalone spinoff show.
Who won the movie?
  • Danny McBride – no serious career before this; gets Kenny Powers because of this role.
  • Seth Rogen as an alternative – this may be guerrilla marketing for his future marijuana company.