'Margin Call'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Ryen Russillo, and Brian Koppelman are left holding the biggest bag of odorous excrement ever assembled in the history of capitalism after they rewatch the 2011 financial drama 'Margin Call' starring Zachary Quinto, Kevin Spacey, Paul Bettany, and Jeremy Irons.

Cast
Kevin Spacey as Sam Rogers
Jeremy Irons as John Tuld
Paul Bettany as Will Emerson
Zachary Quinto as Peter Sullivan
Stanley Tucci as Eric Dale
Penn Badgley as Seth Bregman
Simon Baker as Jared Cohen
Demi Moore as Sarah Robertson
Mary McDonnell as Mary Rogers
Aasif Mandvi as Ramesh Shah
Directed by: J.C. Chandor
Written by: J.C. Chandor
Notes
- Brian Koppelman demanded they do this movie; he says he's watched it more than any movie of the last 15 years.
- Bill describes it as more of a horror movie than a drama, with elements of dark comedy and thriller.
- JC Chandor wrote the script in four straight days and almost never edited the scenes afterward.
- Shot in 17 days. More than 80% of the action was shot on the 42nd floor of 1 Penn Plaza, which had been vacated by a trading firm.
- Getting Jeremy Irons's work visa was so difficult that two US Senators had to get involved during 4th of July weekend. The closing credits thank the 'Jeremy Irons Visa 'Miracle' team.'
- They crammed all of Irons's scenes into three days due to the visa issue, which Bill thinks helped the performances because everyone looked haggard from 20-hour shoots.
- The Tucci/Bettany stoop scene was shot on the first day of shooting, even though the whole movie builds to it.
- Spacey's clapping moment ('clap it up') was something Kevin Spacey brought on the day – it wasn't in the script.
- The Tucci and Quinto characters were inspired by a friend of Chandor's who was a grad student at MIT in engineering but got roped into the financial sector by a huge signing bonus.
- Chandor's father was an investment banker.
- Nominated for Best Original Screenplay at the Oscars.
- First movie to release simultaneously in theaters and on VOD. Made $5.4 million in ticket sales but $10 million in VOD, setting off the era of simultaneous releases.
- $3.5 million budget, earned $19 million total.
- Koppelman considers it one of the 10 best movies of the last 15 years.
- 'Three ways to make a living in this business. Be first, be smarter or cheat.'
- 'It isn't the fear of falling. It's the fear that they might jump.'
- Eric Dale made a mathematical error in his bridge speech: said 559,020 days but it was actually 5,090,200 days.
- Bill's wife was able to follow the movie despite being half-asleep, which he credits to the 'explain it to me like a golden retriever' device.
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Quote from Rog's review:
“The movie is smart about how it presents financial details. The dialog is incomprehensible at times but not to the characters, who know exactly what they're talking about.”
Ebert praised the excellent cast and noted 'there's no larger sense of the public good' among the characters.
- Eric Dale gets laid off, Bettany says goodbye with the shoulder slap, gives him the zip drive – 'Be careful, I was in the middle of a lot of shit right here.'
- Bettany on the balcony explaining how he spent his $2.5 million – Bill's pick.
- Bettany explaining the model to Spacey after Quinto and Badgley summon him, and Spacey slowly realizing what it means.
- The first Jeremy Irons conference room scene – 'biggest bag of odorous excrement' and the 'I'm here to guess what the music might do' speech.
- Irons vs. Spacey Part 2 – 'If you're the first out the door, that's not called panicking.'
- Spacey tries to quit, and Irons delivers the long speech about how people want to live beyond their means.
- Koppelman: The Tucci/Bettany stoop scene – 'Come back, take the money. You'll be home by 5:00.'
- Russillo: Will selling off positions over the course of the trading day – '$0.65 / that's a $131 million loss / do it.'
- The cast – everyone throws 98 miles an hour, no weak performances.
- Demi Moore coming out of the bullpen as a former A-lister in a supporting role.
- The 'speak to me as you might a young child or a golden retriever' line as a classic powerful-person trick.
- The Irons speech listing financial cycles through history – the cyclical nature of financial crises.
- A movie taking place in one night as a metaphor – huge decisions being made while most people sleep.
- Penn Badgley becoming a massive star from You.
- Zachary Quinto putting himself in a different place career-wise with this film.
- Koppelman: Spacey digging the grave at the end, illuminated only by car headlights.
- Bill: Demi Moore staring out the window of a tall building in New York City during a crisis.
No weak link found – Bill says this is rare; all actors crush it.
- Kevin Spacey's personal baggage makes the first 10 minutes uncomfortable, though he's incredible in the role.
- The Big Short (2015) hurt this movie's profile – it swallowed up the oxygen around the financial crisis movie genre, making 'Margin Call' more of a cult film.
- Bill: 'I just like this movie more than The Big Short. I don't care.'
- Koppelman: 'This is one of the 10 best movies of the last 15 years.'
- Russillo: If this comes out in 2022, Demi Moore is Jeremy Irons, not the scapegoat.
- The Jeremy Irons role was originally offered to Sir Ben Kingsley.
- Tim Robbins was also considered.
- Billy Crudup had to refuse due to other obligations.
- Carla Gugino was supposed to play the Demi Moore character but had another project that ran long.
- Demi Moore stepped in late as a replacement.
- Grace Gummer (Meryl Streep's daughter) had a scene as Quinto's ex-girlfriend that was cut.
No overacting found – all three hosts agree performances are understated and earned given the stakes.
- Aasif Mandvi as Ramesh – 'I've seen this guy all over the place. I never knew his name until I looked it up.'
- Paul Bettany gets the Dion Waiters Award – even though he's in a lot of the movie, there's a scene-stealer quality to him.
- Tom Hanks in the Kevin Spacey role – discussed at length; Russillo thinks Hanks would have been better.
- Russell Crowe in the Spacey role (Insider-era Crowe), put on 30 lbs.
- James Gandolfini in the Spacey role – Koppelman says he would have been incredible.
- Philip Seymour Hoffman in the Spacey role.
- Shot in 17 days on a $3.5 million budget.
- More than 80% shot on the 42nd floor of 1 Penn Plaza, vacated by a trading firm.
- Jeremy Irons work visa situation required two US Senators over 4th of July weekend.
- Eric Dale made a math error in his bridge speech: said 559,020 days instead of 5,090,200.
- Zachary Quinto: Yes – he produced and starred alongside great actors, moving to another level.
- Paul Bettany: Koppelman thinks yes; Bill counters that the Avengers franchise might be his apex.
- JC Chandor: Consensus answer – became an A-list director from one 17-day shoot.
- 'Wall Street' movies: Probably not.
- The cancer-stricken dog and the shovel/digging at the end – 'It's a little much, styled up by about 27% on the symbolism.'
- Simon Baker's character is named Jared Cohen – 'You totally don't look like the name of your character.'
- Hard to believe nobody at this firm had any idea they were over-leveraged like this.
- Russillo: Would you still be able to sell at $0.65 on the dollar at 3:59 PM after calling the entire town all day?
- Bill considered a 24-style 13-episode show covering 13 hours of the margin call.
- Koppelman: The show should be set a year later – how John Tuld rebuilt relationships and the firm went from $50/share back to $450.
JC Chandor for writing/directing.
- What to do with Kevin Spacey's IMDb and his movies given his personal issues.
- How long does Sam actually stay at the firm? Koppelman thinks 10 years. Bill says at least 5.
- Koppelman: Wolf of Wall Street or Sweet Smell of Success.
- Russillo: Bright Lights, Big City.
- Bill: 'Wall Street'.
Koppelman: Bettany's Aston Martin.
- Koppelman: Talk to your kids.
- Bill: Maybe do math a little bit better.
- JC Chandor – consensus pick; pulled off a sleek movie with no money and no time, launching his career.
- Runner-up: Jeremy Irons.
- Craig Horlbeck had never even heard of the movie before.
- Thought it was fantastic; said it was 'indistinguishable from a TV show in 2022' – compared it to Industry and Succession.