August 08, 2022
'School Ties'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Juliet Litman, and Mallory Rubin use this podcast to get into Harvard after rewatching the 1992 classic film 'School Ties', starring Brendan Fraser, Matt Damon, Chris O'Donnell, and Cole Hauser.

Cast
Brendan Fraser as David Greene
Matt Damon as Charlie Dillon
Chris O'Donnell as Reese
Ben Affleck as Chesty
Cole Hauser as Jack Connors
Randall Batinkoff as Rip Van Kelt
Anthony Rapp as Magoo
Amy Locane as Sally
Zeljko Ivanek as Mr. Cleary
Ed Lauter as David's father
Directed by: Robert Mandel
Written by: Dick Wolf
Notes
- $18 million budget, grossed $14.7 million – didn't make its money back theatrically but became a cable/VHS/DVD staple.
- Dick Wolf (Law & Order creator) wrote the screenplay based on personal experiences.
- Produced by Stanley Jaffe and Sherry Lansing (also produced 'Kramer vs. Kramer' and Taps).
- Filmed at Middlesex School in Concord, MA.
- Over 5,000 young men auditioned (mostly on videotape). Looked for a year and a half for David Greene.
- Fraser said the production ran out of hot water during the shower fight; steam was pumped in and the water was cold.
- Damon said the director tried to pump them up by calling them 'the next Brat Pack.'
- David's jersey number 42 = Jackie Robinson's number (likely intentional); Damon's 21 = half of 42.
- None of the actors in the film are Jewish, despite it being one of the most important Jewish movies.
- Bill compared the cast to the 2003 NBA draft (LeBron, Carmelo, Bosh, Wade) in a 2011 column.
- All the young actors tested for 'Scent of a Woman'; O'Donnell won the part.
Categories
Roger Ebert's review
Quote from Rog's review:
“It's not simply about anti-Semitism, but also about the way that bigotry can do harm by inspiring dishonesty.”
- Ebert called it 'surprisingly effective, perceptive, unforgiving.'
- Siskel recalled personal anti-Semitic experiences at prep school (including being handed toast with jam in the shape of a swastika).
Most re-watchable scene
- Bill and Mallory: The deliberation/honor code sequence (secret ballot vs. open vote).
- The Smokey Joe's Cafe scene (dorm room, shirtless Affleck, casual anti-Semitic jokes).
- Damon and Fraser on the dock ('I envy you' scene).
- Dylan finding out David is Jewish at the cocktail party.
- The naked shower fight.
- The swastika/cowards scene.
- Cole Hauser's speech in the pow-wow: 'He's a good guy, I wouldn't cheat.'
- Fraser's 'You used me for football, I'll use you to get into Harvard.'
What aged the best?
- Seeing Damon, Affleck, and Hauser before they were famous (connecting to 'Good Will Hunting').
- Matt Damon as a villain – foreshadowing Talented Mr. Ripley.
- Damon laying in the grass after the Saint Luke's win (iconic potential meme).
- Honor codes as a movie device.
- The tweed and menswear.
- Ed Lauter as Fraser's dad – sports movie staple.
What aged the worst?
- The football scenes: poorly filmed, stationary cameras, no sense of field position, the 120-yard throw.
- The car prank sequence (feels like it's from a different movie).
- Casual racial slurs (Damon drops the N-word).
- Amy Locane (currently in prison for DUI manslaughter).
- HBO Max poster featuring Affleck as one of four stars (he has maybe 8 lines).
- The first 10 minutes of the movie (Scranton opening montage).
- None of the actors are Jewish despite being one of the most important Jewish movies.
Weak link of the movie
- Bill: The French meltdown scene – essential to the plot but grinds the movie to a halt on rewatch.
- Mallory: The Cleary car prank sequence (exactly 2 minutes, feels like a different movie).
The hottest take award
- Juliet: The cowards scene isn't that good – too short, rushed, built up more in memory than it delivers.
- Mallory: If you're going to set the confrontation in a naked shower, you MUST bring circumcision into it.
- Bill: Charlie Dillon's cheating isn't that bad – he needed to get into Harvard, it's a crib sheet.
Casting what-ifs
- Kyle Chandler read for David Greene and screen-tested with Randall Batinkoff.
- Matthew Perry read for it.
- Chris O'Donnell was offered Charlie Dillon but wanted a more likable role.
- Stanley Jaffe considered Matt Damon for the lead but decided against it.
Over-acting award
- McGivern (Andrew Lowry) and Mr. Cleary (Zeljko Ivanek) – both nominated.
- The history professor: 'Whoever has done this has robbed you of your honor.'
Best "that guy"
- Zeljko Ivanek (Mr. Cleary) – most famously the warden in Oz.
- Kevin Tighe (football coach) – Eight Men Out, Roadhouse, Newsies.
- Anthony Rapp (Magoo) – originated Mark Cohen in Rent, blew the whistle on Kevin Spacey.
Best "heat check" performance
Ben Affleck – maybe 8 lines in the entire movie, stands out by going shirtless, dancing, doing whatever it takes.
Re-casting couch
- Joaquin Phoenix as McGivern.
- Drew Barrymore or Courtney Thorne-Smith as Sally.
Half-assed (internet) research
- Filmed at Middlesex School in Concord, MA.
- Fraser: production ran out of hot water during shower fight.
- Damon said director called them 'the next Brat Pack.'
- Jersey number 42 = Jackie Robinson's number (likely intentional).
- Anthony Rapp couldn't see out of Magoo's glasses while acting.
- Fraser: 'I faked most of the football. I didn't like getting hit. It hurt.'
Apex Mountain
- Brendan Fraser: Debatable – The Mummy made $300M, but this launched him.
- Randall Batinkoff: Yes.
- Amy Locane: Both apex and nadir.
- New England boarding school movies: 'Dead Poets Society' still holds apex.
- Naked shower fights: Eastern Promises with Viggo Mortensen remains #1.
- French class in movies: Yes.
Picking nits
- Rex Benson 'class of 1875' makes him 98 in 1955, when life expectancy was in the 60s.
- How did they get Cleary's car inside the dorm?
- David's QB number 42 is wrong for 1955 – should be something like 7 or 12.
- The 120-yard throw in the first game is absurd.
- Dylan doesn't even wait for Rip to fall asleep before stealing notes.
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?
- Bill: Set at a New England prep school in the 1950s, make everyone 11th graders, build Season 1 around Fraser turning the football team around. The secret is kept all through junior year. Seasons 4-6 get into the 1960s with Mad Men-style elements.
- Mallory: Follow Jack Connors (Cole Hauser) to the Yellowstone ranch.
Best double feature for this movie
- Mallory: 'Good Will Hunting' (seeing Damon go from villain to hero).
- Juliet: Liberty Heights (foundational Jewish movie).
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?
- Bill: The Band-Aid box where David hides his Star of David necklace.
- Juliet: David Greene's football helmet.
Best (or worst!) life lessons from the movie
- Cole Hauser's speech: examine your own prejudices before being prejudicial.
- 'You used me for football, I'll use you to get into Harvard.'
- Do a better job hiding your crib sheet if you're going to cheat.
Who won the movie?
- Juliet: Matt Damon – brilliant as the villain, long view of career.
- Bill: Brendan Fraser – the film doesn't work without him.
- Mallory: Pat McCorkle and the casting team – assembling this cast is an all-time feat.
Producer review
- Craig watched for the first time and loved it. One critique: the ending wasn't fulfilling enough for David Greene – he just calls Dillon a 'prick' and walks back. 'Wealth and privilege win.'
- Thought the football scenes were terrible.
- Said young Damon as an asshole is changing his opinion of Damon overall.