'Back to the Future Part II'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Cousin Sal hop back in the DeLorean to place a couple bets after rewatching 'Back to the Future Part II' starring Michael J Fox and Christopher Lloyd.

Cast
Michael J. Fox as Marty McFly / Marty Jr. / Marlene McFly
Christopher Lloyd as Doc Brown
Thomas F. Wilson as Biff Tannen / Griff Tannen
Lea Thompson as Lorraine McFly
Elisabeth Shue as Jennifer Parker
James Tolkan as Mr. Strickland
Elijah Wood as Kid in Cafe 80s
Directed by: Robert Zemeckis
Written by: Bob Gale
Music by: Alan Silvestri
Notes
- Budget of $40 million, grossed $332 million (third highest grossing movie of 1989).
- Tarantino listed 'Back to the Future' 1 as one of four 'perfect movies.'
- Bob Gale said Biff in dystopian 1985 was inspired by Donald Trump.
- The Crispin Glover lawsuit ($765,000 settlement) led to SAG collective bargaining agreement changes about likeness.
- Originally the sequel was going to 1967 (protesters) but George and Lorraine would have been too old to be hippies.
- Fox was shooting Family Ties during the day and 'Back to the Future' at night, plus making two sequels back-to-back.
- ILM technology for putting Fox 3 ways in the same scene was groundbreaking.
- Carl Sagan praised this movie for best explaining the perils of time travel.
- Craig Horlbeck had never seen 'Back to the Future Part II' before this episode.
- Bill Simmons was on Jimmy Kimmel Live on October 21, 2015 (the date Marty travels to) and did a bit with Christopher Lloyd and Michael J. Fox.
Categories
Quote from Rog's review:
“And yet the movie is fun, mostly because it's so screwy.”
Ebert had complaints but also noted that only Russ Meyer had previously ended a movie with coming attractions for the next one.
- Winner: Marty trying to get the Almanac back from Biff in 1955, including the recreated prom sequence and car chase – approximately 15 minutes (Bill and Chris).
- Other contenders: the downtown Hill Valley 2015 / Cafe 80s / hoverboard chase sequence (~7-8 minutes), Marty buys the Grays Sports Almanac, dystopian 1985 / Biff Tannen's Pleasure Paradise.
- All the future predictions that came true: FaceTime/video chat, flat panel TVs, hands-free video games, wearable technology, fingerprint scanners, self-lacing Nikes, drones, watching multiple screens at once.
- Alan Silvestri's score (Chris).
- The decision to make the future funny/goofy rather than dark.
- The 'Jaws' 19 trailer as a joke about franchise culture.
- Nike Air Mags concept (led to real patent in 2009).
- The 'same actor playing multiple characters' technology – now commonplace, hard to explain how revolutionary it was.
- The movie being nerdier/geekier than the first one – Marty spends most of it helping explain time travel rather than being cool.
- Pepsi product placement – way too much.
- Michael J. Fox playing his own daughter – 'super weird,' unnecessary.
- The 'Back to the Future' 3 trailer at the end (disappointed audiences).
- Winner: 'I Can't Drive 55' by Sammy Hagar outside the casino (Chris).
- Runner-up: 'Beat It' in the Cafe 80s.
- The Crispin Glover / Jeffrey Weissman situation. Glover's absence is 'the torn ACL of the movie.' They used previously filmed footage, prosthetics, and tricks to disguise the recast.
- Zonked-out Jennifer (Elizabeth Shue) also problematic – Zemeckis admitted he wouldn't have had Jennifer get in the car if he'd thought about it more.
- Chris: it's time for real hoverboards.
- Sal: Marty is not George's son – he's Biff's son. Lorraine was promiscuous in 1955, Marty is nothing like his father, and he has a temper like Biff.
- Craig: Doc is the only good actor in this movie.
- Crispin Glover was offered $125K-$150K but didn't do the sequel.
- Claudia Wells (original Jennifer) dropped out due to her mother's health crisis, replaced by Elizabeth Shue.
- Winner: Tom Wilson as Griff (Biff's grandson in 2015) – 'one of the most annoying characters probably that we've ever done in the Rewatchables.'
- Runner-up: Lea Thompson as Lorraine in the casino/dystopian 1985 scenes.
- Winner: James Tolkan as Mr. Strickland – also in 'Top Gun'.
- Runner-up: Joe Flaherty as the Western Union man (also the heckler in 'Happy Gilmore', SCTV alum).
- Sports Almanacs: 'Unequivocally yes. This is the go-to Sports Almanac.'
- Tom Wilson: yes – plays ~19 different versions of characters.
- Hoverboard technology: yes (Chris).
- Sports gambling movies: yes (over 'Rounders', 'The Gambler', Uncut Gems).
- Michael J. Fox: no. Lea Thompson: no. Elizabeth Shue: no. Zemeckis: no.
Bill argues Cruise is too intense; it's more in the 'Josh Baskin from Big' world – young Hanks is the fit. Craig suggests it's tied.
- The 'chicken' flaw comes out of nowhere – should have been 'loser' instead.
- Biff's rise as a gambler would create butterfly effects changing the very sports results in the Almanac.
- Old Biff returns the DeLorean to the same timeline after changing the past.
- 50 years of sports data fitting in a super thin almanac.
- Doc leaves the keys in the time machine.
- No jet lag from time travel across decades.
Jennifer: Jamie Gertz, young Jennifer Connelly, Mindy Cohen, or Justine Bateman (Bill suggests Bateman would have been a fun Family Ties connection).
- SAG collective bargaining agreement clauses about likeness exist because of the Glover lawsuit.
- The Oh La La magazine cover girl was Venetia Stevenson from the July 1955 issue of Swank.
- Lea Thompson took home the prosthetic breast implants because it was a mold of a real chest.
- Originally the sequel was going back to 1967 but George and Lorraine would have been too old to be hippies.
- A sport called 'slam ball' was planned for 2015 scenes but cut for budget reasons.
- Bill and Chris agree this franchise could be remade. The time-travel concept allows going to any era.
- New cast suggestions: Bill Hader as Doc (good call), need a true high-school-age unknown for Marty.
- Chris notes a modern version going back to fix recent history (9/11, Trump) would make it a non-comedy.
- Chris: Nike Mags (profitable on secondary market).
- Bill: the self-drying/heated jacket.
- Original almanac props sell for $45-50K at Hollywood prop auctions.
- Chris: 'The past is the past. Just leave it alone. Look forward.'
- Bill: 'Really try hard not to fuck your mother.'
Chris picks 'Back to the Future' 3 (because 2 is basically part 1 revisited).
- Why does Marty hate being called chicken so much?
- How would you handle the Almanac to avoid suspicion? (~70% win rate needed).
- Is Doc Brown gay? (A scene was cut from movie 1 where Marty asks 'Do I turn gay?' about his future).
Michael J. Fox (panel agrees). Zemeckis also cited by Chris for the technical achievements.