January 16, 2023

'Alive'

If we're going to die, we're going to die rewatching. The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Craig Horlbeck bundle up and head to the highest altitudes of the Andes Mountains to rewatch the harrowing and biographical survival drama film 'Alive' starring Ethan Hawke and Josh Hamilton.

Movie poster

Cast

Ethan Hawke as Nando Parrado

Josh Hamilton as Roberto Canessa

Vincent Spano as Antonio

John Malkovich as Older Carlitos (narrator)

Danny Nucci as Survivor

Bruce Ramsay as Survivor

Michael DeLorenzo as Survivor

Jack Noseworthy as Survivor

Jose Zuniga as The Mechanic

Josh Lucas as Passenger

Illeana Douglas as Married woman

Directed by: Frank Marshall

Written by: John Patrick Shanley

Music by: James Newton Howard

Produced by: Kathleen Kennedy, Frank Marshall

Notes

  • Budget: $32 million. Domestic gross: $82.5 million.
  • Touchstone Pictures production, produced by Kathleen Kennedy and Frank Marshall.
  • Based on the book 'Alive: The Story of the Andes Survivors.' Real plane crashed on Friday the 13th, October 1972.
  • Chris Ryan's thesis: Alive is secretly a sports movie – ragtag group, overcoming adversity, the hike is the championship game.
  • Bill watched it with his daughter Zoe, who was unfazed by the cannibalism.
  • Yellowjackets (Showtime) comparison discussed as fictional treatment of similar premise.

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Roger Ebert's review

Quote from Rog's review:

There are some stories you simply can't tell. The story of the Andes survivors may be one of them.

Not well reviewed generally.

Most re-watchable scene
  • All three picked the plane crash scene.
  • Chris also loved the first Malkovich scene – the opening monologue.
  • The avalanche, the 'tomorrow we've got to eat' scene, and the rescue helicopter scene also highlighted.
What aged the best?
  • The plane crash sequence – impressive for 1993, still holds up.
  • The score and music.
  • Nando slowly breaking down Canessa about continuing to walk.
  • The social hierarchy / Lord of the Flies dynamics.
  • The decision not to do accents.
What aged the worst?
  • Ethan Hawke refused to grow a beard, maintained his goatee – a movie star flex.
  • This was a great big-screen movie that loses something on TV.
  • Canessa told Nando he sees a road to the east but they went the other way – a 2005 expedition confirmed it was actually a road.
Weak link of the movie
  • Bill: Roy the radio guy.
  • Chris: The Mechanic character – also 'the guy in a different movie'.
The hottest take award
  • Craig: The movie didn't get into the cannibalism enough; they should have shown more of the nastiness.
  • Craig: Part of him wants something like this to happen to him, to know what he's capable of.
  • Bill: They could have dialed up the eating part more – interested in the science of what they chose to eat.
  • Chris: This is secretly a sports movie.
Casting what-ifs
  • Brad Pitt auditioned for Roberto/Canessa but did a bad reading, so the role went to Josh Hamilton.
  • They wished Brad Pitt had been in the movie in some role.
Re-casting couch
  • Chris: Ben Affleck as Antonio (Vincent Spano's part).
  • Bill: Leonardo DiCaprio as one of the younger guys – wished for one more future star in the cast.
Over-acting award
  • Bill: Ethan Hawke right after he wakes up from the coma.
  • Chris: Either Roy or the Mechanic – the Mechanic described as 'out of control' and 'deranged'.
Best "that guy"
  • Michael DeLorenzo – PFC Williams from 'A Few Good Men', New York Undercover.
  • Jack Noseworthy.
  • Josh Lucas – though Bill says 'he's Josh Lucas though,' suggesting he's too well known.
  • Danny Nucci.
Half-assed (internet) research
  • The real Nando was technical advisor to the film.
  • Real plane crashed on Friday the 13th; filmed at ski town Panorama in the Canadian Rockies.
  • Fleet of five helicopters to transport crew and cast.
  • Human error caused the crash – pilots thought they'd passed Curico, turned north too early.
  • The plane was a Fairchild FH-227; 23 of 78 Fairchild planes had crashed.
  • In 2005, an American hiker stumbled across Eduardo's wallet with film, cash, and identity papers, buried for 33 years.
  • Script kicking around since 1981; inappropriate Mexican adaptation 'Survive' in 1976.
  • For the cannibalism decision scene, actors all fasted for two days; filmed in sequence so cast looked progressively skinnier.
  • Nine days filming the plane crash; actors took motion sickness pills; used real stuntmen on cables.
Apex Mountain
  • Plane crashes – top 3 all time.
  • Survival movies – up there, but Castaway wins.
  • Cannibalism movies – the only non-horror one basically.
  • Uruguayan rugby movies – definitely.
Picking nits
  • Why didn't they take clothes off the dead people? They'll eat them but not take their clothes.
  • Movie is 2 hours 7 minutes – when Hawke and Hamilton finally set off hiking, 10 seconds later there's green valleys; a scene is missing.
  • Why did they call off the search after only 7-8 days?
(Probably) unanswerable questions
  • What's the morning breath combo of no toothpaste, 1972 cigarettes, and human flesh?
  • Why didn't they cook the meat? They had lighters for cigarettes.
  • Should Nando have been captain all along?
  • Once you eat human flesh, can you go back?
  • How many cigarettes did they actually have?
  • Where did they go to the bathroom?
Best double feature for this movie
  • Chris: Fearless (Peter Weir, Jeff Bridges plane crash movie).
  • Craig: 127 Hours.
  • Bill: Castaway.
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?
  • Chris: The aviator glasses they all wore.
  • Craig: The red shoe.
  • Bill: The red sneakers.
Best (or worst!) life lessons from the movie
  • Bill: Start eating sooner – don't wait, don't need four days of debate, you need strength to get off the mountain.
  • Craig: Whatever it takes – while you have the energy, take the trip.
Who won the movie?

All three agree: Ethan Hawke won the movie.

Just one Oscar, who gets it?
  • Bill's finalists: Hawke and the score.
  • Bill chose the score – 'Hawk's good, but he does dial it up in that one scene'.