September 13, 2021
'Warrior'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons and Ryen Russillo left Mick and Polly at home to rewatch the 2011 sports drama 'Warrior' starring Nick Nolte, Tom Hardy, and Joel Edgerton.

Cast
Tom Hardy as Tommy Conlon
Joel Edgerton as Brendan Conlon
Nick Nolte as Paddy Conlon
Jennifer Morrison as Tess Conlon
Frank Grillo as Frank Campana
Directed by: Gavin O'Connor
Written by: Gavin O'Connor
Notes
- $25 million budget, made $23.5 million – lost money.
- Nick Nolte got a Best Supporting Actor nomination; lost to Christopher Plummer for Beginners (career achievement win).
- The Artist won Best Picture that year; Bill argues Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close and War Horse getting nominated over Warrior was indefensible.
- 'Rocky' was O'Connor's biggest influence: 'Rocky for me, such an indelible film. To this day, it's in my bloodstream.'
- Nolte admitted he 'drank every day of my life until I was 48 years old' – drew on personal demons for the role.
- The Nolte role was written specifically for him – he and the screenwriter were neighbors in Malibu. The studio didn't want Nolte; O'Connor held firm.
- Hardy gained 28 pounds for this role, then used that muscle going straight into Bane for 'The Dark Knight' Rises.
- Joel Edgerton tore his MCL in the cage during production; they halted fight scenes for six weeks.
- Tom Hardy's injuries during filming: broken toe, broken ribs, broken finger.
- The writers selected 'About Today' by The National to close the movie before writing the final scene – played the song on a loop while writing to match the beats.
- First day of shooting, Nick Nolte was so good in a diner scene that the crew gave him a standing ovation – the scene didn't make the movie.
- O'Connor wanted a slow platform release (100 screens, let word of mouth build) but the studio released it wide and it flopped.
- Remade as a Bollywood film called 'Brothers' – one of the biggest movies of the decade in India. Also remade in Russia.
- Russillo's story: Lionsgate hired him to host the Warrior premiere in Braintree, MA. No red carpet, no celebrities, no audience. They pulled kids from the parking lot to fill seats.
- Bill considers it one of the best sports movies ever, in his top 10.
Categories
Roger Ebert's review
Quote from Rog's review:
“This is a rare fight movie in which we don't want to see either fighter lose.”
Bill: 'Good point. Who am I rooting for in that final scene? I'm attached to both guys.'
Most re-watchable scene
- Winner: Tommy's first gym fight where he destroys Mad Dog, then tells the trainer 'You owe me 200 bucks' – both Bill and Russillo pick this.
- Tommy asking Paddy to train him and the pill scene – 'You sounded like a goddamn maraca coming through the door'.
- Frank Grillo's 'Don't you tap!' corner scene.
- The Koba vs. Brendan third round with Grillo's 'Why are we here?' speech.
- The final fight – the cheapshot after round 1, the broken arm/shoulder, coming out one-armed.
- The last round with 'About Today' by The National – Bill calls it 'one of the best endings ever to a sports movie'.
What aged the best?
- Tom Hardy's believability and career trajectory – 'Inception' (2010), Warrior (2011), Bane in 'The Dark Knight' Rises (2012).
- The slot machine scene – Hardy throwing coins at Nolte, leading to Nolte's alcoholic relapse bender (Moby Dick on a Walkman with Canadian Club whiskey).
- The fight scenes' authenticity – invented two distinct MMA styles for Tommy (Lesnar-like wrecking ball) and Brendan (scrappy grappler).
- Jennifer Morrison as Tess – not the typical 'wet blanket girlfriend' of sports movies.
- Tommy having no entrance music and leaving immediately after wins.
What aged the worst?
- The first 40 minutes are slow from a rewatchability standpoint.
- The students' reaction to their teacher doing MMA – in 2011 there was still a 'human cockfighting' stigma; in 2021 the kids would think it's the coolest thing ever.
- Gavin O'Connor playing the Dana White/hedge fund guy – could have used a different, bigger actor.
- Could have used one more Tommy-Brendan scene between the hour-five encounter and the final fight.
Casting what-ifs
- The Nolte role was written specifically for him – he and the screenwriter were neighbors in Malibu. The studio did NOT want to cast Nolte; O'Connor held firm.
- Kurt Angle played Koba, the Russian villain.
- Bryan Callen's MMA commentator was heavily based on Joe Rogan (they're friends) – Bill jokes they should have named him 'Mo Logan'.
- Frank Grillo based his trainer on famed MMA trainer Greg Jackson.
Over-acting award
- Nick Nolte – dials it up but it's totally justified given the character's demons.
- The guy who plays Mad Dog – really trying to work the smarmy bad guy angle.
Best "that guy"
- Winner: The guy who works at the high school who alerts Edgerton about the school committee – was the right-hand guy in Dave, the dad in Mad Love, was in Veep. Bill doesn't know his name and prefers to 'live in darkness.'
- Honorable mention: the front desk guy at the gym who videotapes Tommy fighting – 'His PER is in the 50s'.
Best "heat check" performance
- Frank Grillo as Brendan's corner man – absolutely kills it, especially the 'Don't you tap!' scene and 'Why are we here?' speech.
- Honorable mention: Kurt Angle as Koba.
Re-casting couch
Stanley Tucci as JJ, the bald hedge fund guy (Dana White-type) who creates Sparta – Bill thinks Tucci would have done 'three fun things with it'.
Half-assed (internet) research
- Hardy gained 28 pounds for this role, then went straight into Bane.
- Joel Edgerton tore his MCL during production; they halted fight scenes for six weeks.
- The writers selected 'About Today' by The National before writing the final scene – played the song on loop while writing.
- First day of shooting, Nolte was so good the crew gave him a standing ovation – the scene didn't make the movie.
- The Iraq scenes were filmed in a parking lot in Pittsburgh.
- Remade as a Bollywood film called 'Brothers' and also remade in Russia.
Apex Mountain
- Gavin O'Connor: His 'artistic Apex Mountain' even though the movie flopped commercially.
- Tom Hardy: Bill says Bane is his apex, with 'Inception'/Warrior/Bane as the peak run.
- Joel Edgerton: Bill thinks this actually was his Apex Mountain – '100% leading man'.
- Atlantic City: 'Has it ever gotten better for Atlantic City than Sparta?'
- Underground MMA movies: '100% yes for Apex Mountain'.
- Bryan Callen: Probably his apex.
Picking nits
- Both brothers getting into the tournament is a stretch.
- Brendan at 1000-to-1 odds is ridiculous – nobody with UFC experience in a 16-man tournament would be 1000-to-1.
- Tommy's desertion storyline would come out way sooner in the internet age.
- The brothers being related would come out before the finals.
- Brendan fighting the day after the Koba fight with those injuries seems impossible.
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?
- Already happening – Gavin O'Connor confirmed they're making Warrior into a TV series.
- O'Connor's vision: every season four characters, two men, two women, all fighters from different parts of the world – 'the show is about what's the fight outside the cage'.
(Probably) unanswerable questions
- Why wasn't Tom Hardy a bigger star? Could he have been on the Leo level?
- Is this a better movie if Tommy fights Koba in the finals instead of his brother? (Russillo: No – the brother fight ending is what makes it work).
- Did Bane mess up Hardy's career trajectory?
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?
- The Walkman with the Moby Dick audiobook.
- All the coins Tom Hardy threw at Nick Nolte at the slot machines.
- Tom Hardy's pullover/hoodie he wore to the ring.
Who won the movie?
- Winner: Nick Nolte – Russillo argues 'there's so much sympathy for him, he crushes it, you feel really sad for him when he has the relapse, and then he has that happy smile at the end'.
- Tom Hardy would be the only other option – Bill was leaning Hardy but Russillo won him over.