April 12, 2021
'Manhunter'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan come out of retirement to search for the Tooth Fairy as we revisit Michael Mann's 'Manhunter,' starring William Petersen, Brian Cox, and Dennis Farina.
Cast
William Petersen as Will Graham
Brian Cox as Hannibal Lecktor
Tom Noonan as Francis Dollarhyde
Dennis Farina as Jack Crawford
Joan Allen as Reba McClane
Stephen Lang as Freddy Lounds
Directed by: Michael Mann
Written by: Michael Mann
Notes
- $15 million budget, made only $8.6 million – a commercial failure that became a 'fanatical cult movie'.
- Originally titled 'Red Dragon' but changed because 'Year of the Dragon' (1985) had bombed.
- Six actors from memorable 'Miami Vice' episodes appear in the film.
- Cox's Lecktor is argued to be less cartoonish, creepier, and more realistic than Hopkins' version in Silence of the Lambs.
- Brian Cox and Anthony Hopkins share the same agent; Cox was sanguine about not getting Silence of the Lambs.
- Mann learned about In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida from serial killer Dennis Wayne Wallace, a paranoid schizophrenic.
- Sean identifies the color coding system: blue = safety, green = searching, red = danger.
Categories
Most re-watchable scene
- The ending / last 20 minutes – the In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida sequence, Petersen sprinting through the glass window (Bill's pick).
- The FBI note relay / conference room scene – experts decode the toilet paper note, 'You're so sly, but so am I' (Chris's pick).
- Graham vs. Lecktor scene #1 – 'You had disadvantages.' 'What disadvantages?' 'You're insane' (Sean's pick).
- Will goes to the victim's house – crime scene walkthrough with tape recorder.
- The tiger scene – Joan Allen petting a sedated tiger.
- Will figures everything out watching home movies.
What aged the best?
- The blend of cutting-edge forensic science and criminal profiling – at the forefront of the genre that spawned CSI and true crime podcasts.
- The 'Miami Vice' peripheral casting – 6 people from memorable Vice episodes appear (Bill's vote).
- Tom Noonan's performance; Lecktor's quote 'If one does what God does enough times, one will become as God does'.
- Brian Cox's career evolution – multiple incarnations over the decades, now Succession.
- Dante Spinotti's cinematography and Sean's color coding: blue = safety, green = searching, red = danger.
- The phrase 'time is luck' – used in 'Manhunter', Heat, and 'Miami Vice'.
- The beach house filmed at Robert Rauschenberg's actual house in Captiva, FL.
What aged the worst?
- The title change from 'Red Dragon' to 'Manhunter'.
- Lecktor's prison cell compared to Silence of the Lambs' cell – ages worse in comparison.
- William Petersen and Tom Noonan reuniting on the CSI episode 'Abracadaver' 16 years later.
- Smoking in elevators.
Casting what-ifs
- De Laurentiis wanted Richard Gere, Mel Gibson, and Paul Newman for Will Graham.
- For Lecktor: John Lithgow, Mandy Patinkin, William Friedkin, and Brian Dennehy were all considered; Dennehy recommended Brian Cox.
- David Lynch almost directed but didn't like the story and backed out.
- Ted Levine met Michael Mann at the wrap party (visiting friend Petersen), which led to Crime Story and eventually Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs.
Over-acting award
- William Petersen – a few moments that are a bit too big (attacking Freddy, the window-touching eureka moment); Chris disagrees strongly.
- Stephen Lang as Freddy Lounds – some 'mid-80s NBC cop pilot energy'.
Best "that guy"
- Jim Zubiena – the Argentinian hitman from Miami Vice's 'Return of Calderone'; Southwest Pistol League champion, Mann was fascinated by how fast he could draw.
- Dan Butler (Jimmy Price in the FBI conference room).
- Brian Cox wins the Dion Waiters version – in the movie for only about 10 minutes but dominates every scene.
Re-casting couch
- 1986 Richard Gere as Will Graham (Bill's pick; Chris vehemently disagrees).
- Paul Newman as an older Will Graham (Sean – around the time of 'The Color of Money').
- Modern: post-Revenant Leonardo DiCaprio; Lakeith Stanfield (Sean – 'great at performing without talking').
Half-assed (internet) research
- Tom Noonan took up bodybuilding, stayed in character at all times – everyone on set was afraid of the 6'5 guy convincing himself he was a serial killer.
- Brian Cox asked to audition with his back turned so they could hear the power of his voice.
- They couldn't get permission to shoot on an airplane so Mann booked tickets and guerrilla-shot it; gave passengers crew jackets.
- The pool of blood around Noonan was corn syrup; he lay there so long he became stuck to the floor.
- 'In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida' is 17 minutes and 5 seconds long.
- They shot the William Blake/Red Dragon tattoos but Mann decided they seemed too corny and cut them.
Apex Mountain
- Tom Noonan – probably yes.
- William Petersen – debated; CSI (biggest show on TV) is a strong counter.
- Fire corpses on rolling desk chairs – yes, apex mountain for that concept.
- Captiva, Florida – yes, apex mountain.
- Sprinting through a window – Will Graham is probably apex.
- Michael Mann – no (Heat is his apex).
- In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida – debated; Sean argues no because the song inspired heavy metal.
Picking nits
- How does Will Graham afford that amazing beach house on a cop's salary? Even in 1986 that's a $4 million house.
- It took him 2 months to figure out the killer was watching home movies – slow for 'the Michael Jordan of criminal profiling'.
- Mann has never written a normal first date (Dollarhyde takes Joan Allen to pet a tiger; McCauley's awkward date in Heat).
- Geographic confusion throughout – unclear if they're in Washington, Atlanta, or Chicago at various points.
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?
- Essentially already done with Hannibal (NBC series with Mads Mikkelsen).
- Sean: 'we're good on Hannibal' – enough versions have been told.
(Probably) unanswerable questions
- What is life like if Brian Cox got the Silence of the Lambs part? Does Cox become too famous for Succession?
- Did Will get paid by the FBI to come back? Nobody in these movies ever discusses salary.
- The home movies are creepy – who's filming when the whole family is in the shot?
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?
- The note that Lecktor makes Freddy read (Chris).
- The beach house in Captiva (Sean).
- The giant piece of driftwood from the opening scene (Bill).
Who won the movie?
Michael Mann – 'Mann directs the shit out of this movie'.