May 10, 2021
'Lethal Weapon 2'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan break free from the straitjacket to rewatch 'Lethal Weapon 2,' starring Mel Gibson, Danny Glover, and Joe Pesci.

Cast
Mel Gibson as Martin Riggs
Danny Glover as Roger Murtaugh
Joe Pesci as Leo Getz
Patsy Kensit as Rika van den Haas
Directed by: Richard Donner
Written by: Shane Black
Notes
- $30 million budget, third biggest movie of 1989; Bill considers it one of the greatest sequels of all time.
- Shane Black's original script 'Play Dirty' was much darker – Riggs dies at the end in a forest fire, a plane full of cocaine explodes coating LA in cocaine dust.
- Two endings were filmed: one where Riggs dies in Glover's arms, one where they're laughing; test audiences rejected the death.
- Joe Pesci was basically a nobody before this – peaked with Raging Bull then fell off; this launched his entire career renaissance ('Goodfellas', 'Home Alone', 'My Cousin Vinny', 'Casino').
- Gibson described as 'the Usain Bolt of actors running' – the best runner in movie history.
- GTA 5 homaged the house-on-stilts scene – a protagonist pulls a house down with a truck when he finds his wife cheating.
Categories
Roger Ebert's review
Quote from Rog's review:
“Lethal Weapon 2 is that rarity, a sequel with most of the same qualities as the original.”
Bill agrees and says it had even better qualities than the original.
Most re-watchable scene
- The toilet bomb scene – 'One of the great action movie scene premises of all time' (Bill's pick).
- The house on stilts being pulled down by Riggs's truck ($500K to build a replica).
- Gibson breaking into the South African office – 'Well well well, it's the master race'.
- Glover shoots the lead bad guy – 'It's just been revoked' (diplomatic immunity line).
- The straitjacket escape scene.
- 'They fuck you at the drive-through' (Pesci).
- The nail gun fight scene.
- Gibson's trailer getting shot up / escaping with Patsy Kensit.
What aged the best?
- Joe Pesci's introduction as the 'microwave man off the bench' – injecting adrenaline and becoming a blueprint for 30+ years of action movie sidekicks.
- The condom/rubber plant subplot with Murtaugh's daughter – the whole cop station prank payoff.
- Nail guns as a weapon – first major on-screen appearance, later used iconically by Snoop in The Wire.
- Dean Norris appearing (before Breaking Bad fame).
- The South African villain accents and Joss Ackland's performance.
- Patsy Kensit – great job in the movie.
- Eric Clapton's guitar soundtrack, plus a George Harrison song.
What aged the worst?
- The reveal that the South Africans killed Riggs's wife – cheapens the original random tragedy of the car accident.
- Mel Gibson's real-life behavior ruining the movie's legacy.
- The 'nail them both' one-liner after the nail gun kill – cheesy 80s pun.
- Riggs's bullet avoidance strategy of diving/rolling to avoid machine gun fire.
- Classic cop propaganda – Riggs breaks every single rule about policing.
Casting what-ifs
- Joe Pantoliano was the original choice to play Leo Getz – had a conflict doing The Last of the Finest.
- Danny DeVito was also considered for Leo but deemed 'too lovable'.
Over-acting award
- Joss Ackland as the lead South African villain – 'really over-evils in a way that I liked and enjoyed'.
- Riggs in full vengeance mode – 'I'm not a cop tonight, Roger'.
Best "that guy"
- Joss Ackland – Bill didn't know his name but recognized him from Hunt for Red October.
- Mark Rolston ('Boggs from Shawshank') who gets shot early.
- Jack McGee – the construction worker on Murtaugh's house; 'in a hundred different things'.
- Jeanette Goldstein (Vasquez from Aliens, foster mother in T2) – the female cop on the diving board.
Best "heat check" performance
- Joe Pesci – Chris says 'he's eligible to the extent that I would almost change the name of the award'.
- Pesci went from a nobody to a phenomenon within six years of this movie.
Re-casting couch
Bill wouldn't touch this movie's casting – 'Maybe one of the South African bad guys should be somebody that we know, like the Ultimate Warrior'.
Half-assed (internet) research
- Shane Black's original script 'Play Dirty' – much darker, Riggs dies, a plane of cocaine explodes over LA; considered Shane Black's best piece of writing by his own admission.
- Two endings were filmed: death and laughter; test audiences rejected the death ending.
- Richard Donner called it 'Lethal Weapon 1.5'.
- GTA 5 homages the house-on-stilts scene.
Apex Mountain
- Danny Glover – yes; but these movies aged him 30 years in the audience's subconscious even though he was only 43, trapping him in the 'feeble older cop' typecast.
- Richard Donner – yes, probably; owned a big chunk of the franchise and could do whatever he wanted.
- Evil South Africans as villains – 'It literally is apex mountain'; one and done, never used again.
- Ramses Condoms – yes; 'By the late 90s, Trojans overtook Ramses'.
- Bad things happening in houses on stilts – absolutely.
- Mel Gibson – still probably Braveheart.
Picking nits
- Why didn't they just kill Riggs instead of putting him in a straitjacket and throwing him in water?
- The toilet bomb scene: Murtaugh was sitting there 12-18 hours and nobody mentions the smell.
- After the bomb, they'd have concussions and hearing damage from C4 – never addressed.
- Riggs bringing his girlfriend back to her apartment after surviving a massive gunfight – she works for the villains, they know where she lives.
- Who is looking after Riggs's dog? He spends all his time at the Murtaughs', the trailer gets shot up.
(Probably) unanswerable questions
- Is diplomatic immunity a real thing where you can just commit crimes? Bill Googled it and it doesn't seem real to the extent shown.
- Could you actually pull a house on stilts down with a pickup truck?
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?
- The surfboard – keep the fake blood on it (Chris and Bill).
- The gold pen (Van's pick).
Who won the movie?
- Mel Gibson wins the movie but the title is 'vacated' due to real-life behavior (Bill's take).
- Chris: 'Gibson wins the movie, but Pesci makes the movie'.
- Van: Joe Pesci – using the Charles Woodson/Peyton Manning Heisman analogy.