March 29, 2021

'Commando'

The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano, and Kyle Brandt sneak out of a flight to Val Verde to record the 1985 action classic 'Commando,' starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, Rae Dawn Chong, and Bill Duke.

Movie poster

Cast

Arnold Schwarzenegger as Col. John Matrix

Vernon Wells as Bennett

Bill Duke as Cooke

Dan Hedaya as Arias

Alyssa Milano as Jenny Matrix

Directed by: Mark L. Lester

Notes

  • Roger Ebert didn't write a formal review but gave a thumbs up on Siskel & Ebert, calling it 'a silly, enjoyable romp.'
  • Kyle says this was the first R-rated movie he ever saw, at age 8 at a friend's sleepover.
  • $9 million budget, made $57.5 million at the box office.
  • Val Verde is a fictional South American country invented for the movie to avoid offending real countries; used in multiple subsequent films by producer Steven de Souza.
  • Director Mark L. Lester described Bennett as 'in love with Matrix, but he hated him too.' Vernon Wells described his own look as 'Freddie Mercury on steroids.'
  • This episode was recorded as a lead-up to the 'Predator' episode – Shea calls 'Commando' 'the cheese sticks before the steak.'
  • The Arnold vs. Stallone rivalry launched this year (1985), with Rambo: 'First Blood' Part 2 in the same summer.
  • The hosts created a special 'Greatest Unintentional Comedy' category – nominees included Arnold chopping wood in a tank top, the father-daughter montage, Dan Hedaya's accent, and Bennett's sexually charged reaction to Matrix's fight challenge.

Categories

Most re-watchable scene
  • Shea: The opening sequence – his favorite opening of any Arnold action movie. The music, the montage, the guards dying immediately.
  • Kyle: The garden shed scene – Arnold killing people with axes, machetes, and throwing saw blades at heads. Full 10 out of 10 comedic violence.
  • Bill: Arnold escaping from the plane – killing the guy, 'Don't disturb my friend, he's dead tired,' hanging from the landing gear, jumping from hundreds of feet, and just looking at his watch.
What aged the best?
  • Rae Dawn Chong – Shea and Kyle both pick her. She's funny, charming, kicks ass, fires a rocket, no forced romance with Arnold, and a woman of color cast in an 80s action movie. The director auditioned Sharon Stone but liked Rae Dawn Chong.
  • Arnold's one-liners: 'I'll be back, Bennett,' 'You're a funny guy, Sully, I like you, that's why I'm going to kill you last,' 'Remember Sully when I promised to kill you last? I lied,' 'Don't disturb my friend, he's dead tired,' 'Let off some steam, Bennett.'
  • Bill Duke's first three quick scenes at the top of the movie.
  • Mid-80s malls – the Sherman Oaks Mall was a time capsule with Swenson's ice cream.
  • Arnold's secret gun shed with the code lock.
  • Bill Paxton's little cameo (he and Arnold also had a scene together in Terminator).
  • The cliff scene – 'I let him go.'
What aged the worst?
  • 'Commando' hijacking the 48 Hours theme song (Bill puts it in both best and worst).
  • Rae Dawn Chong becoming team Arnold within 30 minutes – Stockholm syndrome speed record.
  • Kyle: The police department's incompetence – Arnold is a crazed man who attacked the mall, then is caught with a pile of machine guns, and they put him in the back of a joke patrol car.
  • Dan Hedaya's casting as a South American former dictator – he's just the dad from 'Clueless'.
  • The end song 'We Fight for Love' – underwhelming compared to other 80s action movie closers like Point Break's Ratt kick-in.
  • The yellow Porsche getting destroyed.
  • Rae Dawn Chong shooting a missile launcher – even for this movie, completely absurd.
Casting what-ifs
  • Gene Simmons and Nick Nolte were in the mix for the lead before Arnold got it.
  • Wings Houser was supposed to play Bennett – got fired on set on the first day, replaced by Vernon Wells.
  • The director wanted Raul Julia for the Arias dictator role – went with Dan Hedaya instead.
  • John McTiernan was offered the chance to direct, turned it down, and ended up doing 'Predator'.
Over-acting award
  • Bennett in the final fight – 'I don't need the gun, John. I can beat you. I don't need no gun.' The whole last scene is dialed up to 11.
  • Dan Hedaya wins the 'Judd Nelson Award' (guy who's in a completely different movie than everyone else) – he's basically in an episode of Family Ties playing a dictator.
Best "that guy"
  • Vernon Wells as Bennett – also in Mad Max 2 and 'Weird Science' (same year, basically a self-parody of this character).
  • David Patrick Kelly as Sully – the gang leader from 'The Warriors', Luther in 48 Hours, also in The Crow and 'John Wick'.
Best "heat check" performance
  • Bill Duke – plays maybe 12 minutes of the movie but completely owns every scene. The only time Shea thought Arnold might actually die.
  • The mall security guard – 'Attention all units, suspect six foot two, brown hair, he's one gigantic motherfucker.' Two scenes, all bangers.
Re-casting couch

For the Dan Hedaya dictator role: Edward James Olmos (Shea's pick, Bill says too good of an actor), Gary Cervantes from Blood In Blood Out, Esai Morales, or Jimmy Smits.

Half-assed (internet) research
  • The mall was the Sherman Oaks Mall in LA (still exists).
  • The island (Val Verde) was actually Saint Nicholas Island off the coast of Santa Barbara.
  • The climax compound is the Harold Lloyd estate in Beverly Hills – same location as the final shootout in 'Beverly Hills Cop' one year earlier.
  • Director Mark Lester wanted Arnold to actually dangle David Patrick Kelly over the cliff with no safety equipment; Arnold refused, so they used a crane.
  • A love scene between Arnold and Rae Dawn Chong was filmed but cut due to concerns about interracial romance reception in Southern US cinemas.
  • Rae Dawn Chong's little red car is a Sunbeam Alpine, a 1960s British sports car.
  • Official body count: 109 (102 killed by Arnold, 7 by others).
  • Director's cut is 91 minutes vs the standard 90 – extra minute is mostly additional garden shed violence and saucier Alyssa Milano dialogue.
  • Bill Duke had no acting credits from 1981 to 1985, then went on a run: 'Commando', 'Predator', Menace II Society. He also directed Sister Act 2.
Apex Mountain
  • Arnold Schwarzenegger: No.
  • Rae Dawn Chong: Yes – this is what she's known for.
  • Bill Duke: No – 'Predator' is his apex.
  • Vernon Wells: Yes – this over Mad Max 2 and 'Weird Science'.
  • Alyssa Milano: No – Who's the Boss? or Charmed.
  • Val Verde: Yes – the fictional country was invented for this movie.
  • Missile launchers: Yes – the first one Bill thinks of.
  • Mid-80s yellow Porsches: Yes.
Picking nits
  • Arnold gets shot in the shoulder, says 'I'll fight with one arm,' then uses both arms two minutes later.
  • The Hawaiian shirt guy (Sully's henchman) puts Matrix in the aisle seat instead of the window – making it trivially easy for Arnold to escape.
  • The Chevy Blazer chase down the mountain – the caravan could have just stopped and Arnold would have careened into the valley.
  • Does Jenny go to school? They're supposedly in hiding but they're getting ice cream and hiking.
  • The father-daughter opening montage is shot like a romance – uncomfortable head tilts, lip kisses, she makes an 'I love you' sign.
  • Rae Dawn Chong conveniently knows how to fly a seaplane, isn't scared of anything, and can figure out a missile launcher.
  • Arnold finds the perfect hostage: she can fly planes, shoot missile launchers, and isn't afraid of anything.
  • Why don't the bad guys just kill the daughter once Arnold escapes the plane? He's reneged on the deal.
  • Rae Dawn Chong is not nearly upset enough when her vintage sports car is destroyed.
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?

No. All three hosts immediately say no.

(Probably) unanswerable questions
  • Why wasn't there a 'Commando' 2? Arnold did Raw Deal and Red Heat instead – either could have been swapped for a sequel.
  • What happens after the movie? Does Arnold face charges? Rae Dawn Chong might have killed two cops with that rocket launcher.
  • Does Arnold drop Rae Dawn off at her house? Do they go back to his lair? Are they a family now?
  • More indefensible non-sequel: 'Commando' 2, Roadhouse 2 with Swayze, or 'Point Break' 2 with Keanu? All three say 'Point Break'.
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?
  • Shea: The missile launcher – would carry it everywhere like a cell phone.
  • Kyle: Bennett's chain mail and the garden shed saw blade – would wear the saw blade on a chain like Flavor Flav.
Who won the movie?

Arnold Schwarzenegger, unanimously. Kyle says he can't even come up with a joke answer.