August 15, 2021

'Argo'

This is the best bad idea that The Ringer's Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan have had, by far. They rewatch Best Picture Academy Award winner 'Argo,' starring Ben Affleck, John Goodman, and Alan Arkin and directed by Ben Affleck.

Movie poster

Cast

Ben Affleck as Tony Mendez

Alan Arkin as Lester Siegel

John Goodman as John Chambers

Bryan Cranston as Jack O'Donnell

Scoot McNairy as Joe Stafford

Tate Donovan as Bob Anders

Clea DuVall as Cora Lijek

Kyle Chandler as Hamilton Jordan

Victor Garber as Ken Taylor

Titus Welliver as Jon Bates

Chris Messina as Malinov

Philip Baker Hall as CIA Director

Directed by: Ben Affleck

Written by: Chris Terrio

Notes

  • $44.5 million budget, made $232.3 million at the box office.
  • First movie in 23 years to win Best Picture without being nominated for Best Director (since Driving Miss Daisy). Also the first since Grand Hotel in 1932 to win without a Best Director or lead acting nomination.
  • Originally a George Clooney project from a 2007 Wired article by Joshua Bierman called 'The Great Escape.' Clooney planned to write, direct, and star as Tony Mendez, but moved on to other projects.
  • Chris Terrio's script ended up on the Black List around 2010 before Affleck got involved.
  • Alan Arkin's character Lester Siegel doesn't actually exist – he's a composite of multiple real people.
  • Led Zeppelin let Affleck use 'When the Levee Breaks' but required the record needle to be in the correct position on the album; Affleck had to reshoot the scene.
  • Affleck had the six actors playing the 'Argo' Six dress and live in character for a week to build chemistry.
  • Studio Six, the phony production company, was so convincing that 26 scripts were delivered to the address after it folded, including one from Steven Spielberg.
  • Bootleg DVDs of 'Argo' became hugely popular in Iran – several hundred thousand copies circulated.
  • The real Tony Mendez was 5'7" and half Mexican. He was only in Iran for a day and a half.
  • Jimmy Carter said 90% of the contribution to the rescue was Canadian. The film has been criticized for minimizing Canada's role – Ambassador Ken Taylor was awarded the Congressional Gold Medal by Reagan in 1981.
  • Roger Ebert gave it 4 stars and chose it as the best film of 2012 – the last time he ever did so before his death in 2013.

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Roger Ebert's review

Quote from Rog's review:

Argo is both spellbinding and surprisingly funny.

Ebert chose it as the best film of 2012 – the last time he ever named a best film before his death in 2013.

Most re-watchable scene
  • Chris: The presentation of all the different escape plans – Affleck shooting down bicycles, teachers, etc. 'You're going to have to follow them for 300 miles with a tire pump.'
  • Bill: From the moment they're in the airport to the celebration montage – the last-minute tickets, the 'what was the purpose of your trip' interrogation, Scoot McNairy pitching the movie to the angry beard guy in Farsi, and the 'we've cleared Iranian airspace' announcement.
  • Also discussed: The charging of the U.S. Embassy (amazing 7-minute scene), Goodman and Arkin's introduction, the scout mission in the bazaar, Affleck prepping everyone for the airport trip.
What aged the best?
  • Goodman and Arkin casting – 15 out of 10 casting. Arkin got an Oscar nomination for basically playing Alan Arkin.
  • Scoot McNairy – Bill's favorite Scoot McNairy movie. His career should have been bigger; he could have had a Tony Soprano-type breakout role.
  • Affleck's 70s political thriller vibe – the whole movie feels like it was made in 1981, channeling Parallax View and Three Days of the Condor.
  • The inside Hollywood jokes – 'You're worried about the Ayatollah? Try the WGA.'
  • The intelligence star scene – the award you win with no ceremony, and you have to give it back. Affleck breaks out the 'Good Will Hunting' wistful smile.
  • The Iran location – mixing real news footage with filmed scenes to make it feel like authentic 1979.
What aged the worst?
  • Simplistic portrayal of Iranians – every Iranian character is completely angry and screaming with no nuance.
  • Whitewashing controversy – the real Tony Mendez was half Mexican and 5'7"; Affleck is a 6'4" white guy.
  • Minimizing Canada's role – Jimmy Carter said 90% of the contribution was Canadian; Ken Taylor gets Luke Longley'd.
  • The Spielberg endings – the movie ends about five times. The Taylor Schilling American flag hug, reading to his son in bed. Could have ended with the celebration montage.
  • Some music choices slightly off on year – Sultans of Swing timing questioned.
Casting what-ifs

Nothing major – Clooney as Mendez was discussed but they concluded Affleck was better because Clooney is always George Clooney and couldn't play a guy who gets overlooked.

Best "that guy"
  • Winner: Christopher Denham as Mark – one of the 'Argo' Six, later played the fixer on Billions. Bill never knew his name until researching.
  • Also discussed: Victor Garber (ruled out – too well known from Alias), Bob Gunton (Shawshank warden), Rory Cochrane (so different from 'Dazed and Confused' you don't recognize him), Zeljko Ivanek (24, Oz), Richard Kind (ruled out – people know him).
Over-acting award

Bryan Cranston – 'You tell the director to call the White House. Do your fucking job!' He knew this category existed nine years later and went for it.

Best "heat check" performance
  • Co-winners: John Goodman and Alan Arkin – they're a team and can't be separated. Both are in the movie less than 15 minutes.
  • Also eligible: Kyle Chandler (put on a ton of weight), Titus Welliver, Philip Baker Hall (uncredited 'is this the best bad idea we have?' cameo).
Re-casting couch

Bill's pitch: Sneak Matt Damon, Casey Affleck, and Cole Hauser into the 'Argo' Six while keeping Scoot McNairy. 'Good Will Hunting' reunion in Tehran.

Half-assed (internet) research
  • Studio Six got 26 scripts delivered after folding, including one from Spielberg.
  • 2016 FOIA research found the CIA was involved in the production of both 'Argo' and Zero Dark Thirty.
  • Bootleg DVDs were massively popular in Iran – a combo of hate-watching and silent protest.
  • Carter only delayed authorization by 30 minutes, well before Mendez left for Iran. The airport chase sequence never happened.
  • Jack Kirby, who made the storyboards for the fake movie, was a real pioneer in the comic book industry.
  • The Studio Six offices were at Sunset Gower Studios, in Michael Douglas's vacated China Syndrome production offices.
Apex Mountain
  • Ben Affleck – yes. Wins Oscar, becomes sympathetic figure from the snub, about to do a Fincher movie. Comeback from J.Lo/Gigli complete.
  • Scoot McNairy – yes.
  • Alan Arkin – no, Little Miss Sunshine.
  • John Goodman – no.
  • Bryan Cranston – yes. Breaking Bad is gaining viewers heading toward its finale, plus establishing himself as a movie actor with 'Argo'.
  • Movies/TV about the Iran hostage crisis – yes (has there been any other?).
  • The CIA – great comeback after killing 'JFK' and starting Vietnam.
Picking nits
  • The real Tony Mendez was 5'7" – Affleck at 6'4" would have been an immediate red flag in Iran.
  • Swiss Air questions: Couldn't they have radioed the plane? Didn't they notice the cars chasing them? Wouldn't they have shot at the plane?
  • The housekeeper subplot needed either more or less – not enough setup for why she covers for the six, then she crosses to Iraq at the end without enough emotional investment.
  • Nightline should have been more prominent – it was the biggest thing on TV during the crisis.
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?

Would have been an amazing 10-episode Netflix show – more time for the political storyline, Carter running for reelection, the Canadian embassy side, like a Homeland season. Embassy takeover would be episode 2 or 3, not the opening.

(Probably) unanswerable questions
  • Is this movie better with George Clooney as Tony Mendez? No – Affleck's muted performance is perfect.
  • Casey Affleck as Mendez? No – didn't seem old enough in 2012.
  • Matt Damon as Mendez? No.
  • Which of the 'Argo' Six would you be?
  • Could you learn a new identity in 30 hours? Bill would have crammed the night before.
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?
  • Alan Arkin's gold Rolls Royce – the most 70s thing imaginable.
  • The original 'Argo' script or the Jack Kirby storyboards – frame-worthy.
  • Scoot McNairy's glasses.
Who won the movie?

Ben Affleck – directed, starred, won Best Picture. The ultimate Hollywood comeback.