'Stand By Me'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan recount a childhood memory of watching the 1986 classic 'Stand By Me,' starring River Phoenix, Wil Wheaton, Corey Feldman, and Jerry O'Connell, directed by Rob Reiner, based on the Stephen King novella 'The Body.'

Cast
River Phoenix as Chris Chambers
Wil Wheaton as Gordie LaChance
Corey Feldman as Teddy Duchamp
Jerry O'Connell as Vern Tessio
Kiefer Sutherland as Ace Merrill
John Cusack as Denny LaChance
Richard Dreyfuss as The Writer (older Gordie)
Bradley Gregg as Eyeball Chambers
Directed by: Rob Reiner
Written by: Raynold Gideon, Bruce A. Evans
Music by: Jack Nitzsche
Notes
- Episode timed to coincide with the HBO documentary 'Show Biz Kids' (directed by Alex Winter), which Bill Simmons executive produced.
- The four child actors represent four different paths of child stardom: Wheaton (pigeonholed), Phoenix (tragic early death), Feldman (chaotic Hollywood fast life), O'Connell (healthy transition to adult career).
- Budget ~$8 million; box office $52 million.
- Norman Lear personally put up $7.5 million of his own money to fund the movie after Columbia Pictures tried to cancel it.
- Stephen King had a private screening, excused himself for 15 minutes to compose himself, then returned and said: 'That's the best film ever made out of anything I've written'.
- John Singleton loved 'Stand By Me' and did multiple homages in 'Boyz n the Hood' (four young boys going to see a dead body, the closing fade-out).
- Rob Reiner told River Phoenix to think of a time an adult let him down right before the milk money scene – 'the next take is the one that's in the movie'.
- The film was originally titled 'The Body'; Columbia insisted on a name change.
- Bill considers it a 'no-hitter' – both hosts agree the movie is essentially flawless.
- When the boys add up their money, it totals $2.37 – a recurring Stephen King number (Room 237 in 'The Shining').
- The train scene used a 600mm long-focus telephoto lens to compress the image, making the train appear right behind the boys when it was actually far away.
- Richard Dreyfuss quote about the film: 'I don't really remember. It was 30 years ago' – Bill and Chris are incredulous.
Categories
- The train/bridge crossing scene – flawless four-to-five minutes of filmmaking (Bill and Chris's pick).
- The pie-eating contest (Lard Ass) – iconic, especially for kids.
- River's milk money monologue – the big dramatic scene about the teacher stealing the milk money.
- River's speech about Gordie's writing gift – 'God gave you something, man'.
- Gordy and Chris vs. Ace – the gun standoff ('Suck my fat one, you cheap dime-store hood').
- The ending – Gordie saying goodbye to Chris, Chris fading from the picture.
- The movie's timelessness – set in 1959 with enough period distance to be a permanent time capsule (Bill's pick).
- The narration by Richard Dreyfuss – usually narration is a flaw, but it works perfectly here.
- The Cobras as villains – simple, effective villainy; Ace plays chicken, carries a knife.
- Kids smoking – hilarious in retrospect, the way they talk like adults about it.
- Young Kiefer Sutherland – his career trajectory from this to Lost Boys to Jack Bauer.
- Fat Jerry O'Connell – sneaky good performance; became handsome, married Rebecca Romijn.
- The Jack Nitzsche score and the Ben E. King song.
- Childhood urban legends and mythology – goochers, superstitions, stories mutating among 12-year-old boys.
- Everything that's happened with Corey Feldman – the last 25-30 years of self-parody; hard to separate from his performance.
- Kids smoking (placed in both aged-best and aged-worst).
- Adrian Lyne was originally going to direct but Nine and a Half Weeks ran long, so Rob Reiner got the job.
- Corey Haim auditioned for Gordie; the studio wanted him to play Chris Chambers but he turned it down and made Lucas instead.
- Sean Astin, Stephen Dorff, and Ethan Hawke were considered for Gordie – Bill thinks Hawke would have been really good.
- David Dukes, Ted Bessel, and Michael McKean were considered for the Richard Dreyfuss narrator role – David Dukes actually shot a scene.
- Corey Feldman – 'Feldman, a thousand percent' (winner).
- The kid who plays Eyeball 'really going for it'.
- Bruce Kirby – Gordie's dad / the 'quidacciolo's' guy (Chris's pick).
- Marshal Bell – plays Gordie's dad AND Kuato in 'Total Recall'.
- John Cusack as Denny – wonderful in his brief scenes, perfect casting (winner).
- Kiefer Sutherland – eligible but almost too good/prominent; feels like the fifth star.
- Lard Ass – only in the movie for five minutes but iconic.
Eyeball Chambers – suggest Jason Patric, Ralph Macchio, Charlie Sheen, Emilio Estevez, Christian Bale, or Christian Slater.
- Jerry O'Connell said for two weeks the kids just hung out and played games, didn't rehearse – 'Rob is great with kids'.
- Filmed the barf-o-rama in Brownsville, Oregon; extra filling was mixed with large curd cottage cheese to simulate vomit.
- The McCloud River Railroad Trestle (the bridge scene) is near MacArthur-Burney Falls Memorial State Park in California.
- Wil Wheaton was actually faster than River Phoenix, but his character had to lose the sprint.
- The film was nominated for Best Adapted Screenplay at the Academy Awards.
- Wil Wheaton: Yes – this is his Apex Mountain.
- Teen smoking: Yes – 'definitely teen smoking'.
- Rob Reiner: No – his Apex is probably early 90s ('A Few Good Men' + Castle Rock/Seinfeld).
- Corey Feldman: Probably not – Goonies also a candidate.
- Jerry O'Connell: Probably just marrying Rebecca Romijn.
- River Phoenix: Candidates are 'Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade' or My Own Private Idaho.
- How did the leech get through Gordy's jeans and underwear to his groin?
- They don't outrun that train – the bridge height and jump at the end would be a ~50-foot fall.
- Gordy clearly has the drop on Chris in the sprint but Chris turns on 'double Carl Lewis speed'.
- The pie-eating contest judging – a lot of pie left on Lard Ass's plates when he's declared 'done'.
- What was the plan when they got to the body? For either group – the kids or the Cobras.
- Where is law enforcement in Castle Rock? Ace seems to operate completely unchecked.
- What is Gordie's writing career? Fiction? Nonfiction? Is he famous?
- Could be remade as a 10-episode Netflix show but they hope it doesn't happen.
- Chris pitches: 'It should be called The Cobras' – basically Narcos but about those guys.
- Bill suggests a Cobra Kai-style 'catching up 35 years later' concept.
- River Phoenix – both Bill and Chris agree.
- Bill makes a brief case for Rob Reiner (the movie led to founding Castle Rock Entertainment, which syndicated Seinfeld).
- River Phoenix gave 'a generational performance' that has 'completely stood the test of time'.
- Chris notes Phoenix's acting style would seem perfectly at home in a modern HBO show – completely timeless.