February 05, 2020

'Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood' live from Sundance

Live from the Sundance Film Festival, The Ringer's Bill Simmons and his stunt doubles Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan are a gang of has-beens trying to keep the magic alive in the Golden Age of Hollywood when they rewatch 2020 Best Picture nominee 'Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood,' starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt, and Margot Robbie, directed by Quentin Tarantino.

Movie poster

Cast

Leonardo DiCaprio as Rick Dalton

Brad Pitt as Cliff Booth

Margot Robbie as Sharon Tate

Al Pacino as Marvin Schwarz

Bruce Dern as George Spahn

Julia Butters as Trudi Fraser

Margaret Qualley as Pussycat

Austin Butler as Tex Watson

Mike Moh as Bruce Lee

Damian Lewis as Steve McQueen

Kurt Russell as Randy

Luke Perry as Scott Lancer

Timothy Olyphant as James Stacy

Emile Hirsch as Jay Sebring

Lena Dunham as Gypsy

Zoë Bell as Janet Miller

Nicholas Hammond as Sam Wanamaker

Clifton Collins Jr. as Ernesto the Mexican Vaquero

Lorenza Izzo as Francesca Capucci

Damon Harriman as Charles Manson

Directed by: Quentin Tarantino

Written by: Quentin Tarantino

Notes

  • This is a live episode recorded at the Sundance Film Festival, shortly after the movie's release on home video and its Best Picture nomination.
  • Tarantino worked on the script for five years. Leo hadn't made a movie since The Revenant (2015), and Brad Pitt hadn't had a good starring vehicle in years before this.
  • The extended cut adds significant material, especially for Brandy the dog, who becomes practically the 4th main character.
  • Tarantino did a deep interview with Kim Morgan where he mapped out what Rick Dalton's next 10 years on IMDb would look like – eventually winding up on Streets of San Francisco, Charlie's Angels, and '70s game shows.
  • Tarantino said he's been threatening to make 5 episodes of Bounty Law for Netflix, though Leo probably won't do it.

Categories

Most re-watchable scene
  • The Lancer pilot sequence – Rick Dalton shooting the pilot episode, breaking down in his trailer, then coming back and delivering 'the best acting he's ever done.' The whole Trudi Fraser subplot culminates in an incredible stretch.
  • The Spahn Ranch scene – Cliff Booth visiting Spahn Ranch, the tension building as the Manson Family watches him, and the confrontation with George Spahn.
  • The ending – the Manson Family members going to the wrong house and getting destroyed by Cliff Booth and his dog Brandy, followed by Rick Dalton with the flamethrower. 'One of the great crowd-pleasing endings of the decade.'
  • Brad Pitt on the rooftop fixing the antenna – shirtless, looking incredible, establishing the whole Cliff Booth vibe.
  • The Bruce Lee fight – Cliff Booth sparring with Bruce Lee on the Green Hornet set.
What aged the best?
  • Julia Butters as Trudi Fraser – 'she steals the movie.' An 8-year-old method actress who tells Rick Dalton about the process of trying to get better. Her speech becomes the thematic heart of the film.
  • Brad Pitt's comeback – 'I'd given up on him.' After a public breakup and years without a good starring vehicle, he came roaring back. The audience cheered when he took his shirt off.
  • The entire 1969 Los Angeles recreation – the driving sequences, the neon signs, the radio stations, the billboards. 'The best Los Angeles movie ever made' is in the conversation.
  • Margaret Qualley as Pussycat – the hitchhiking scene with Cliff Booth is electric.
What aged the worst?
  • The Bruce Lee scene – 'a little uncomfortable.' The portrayal was controversial, with Shannon Lee publicly objecting to how her father was depicted.
  • The pacing in the second act – the movie meanders for a long stretch before the explosive finale. Some feel it's too long.
  • Margot Robbie's limited dialogue – Sharon Tate doesn't get much to say or do beyond watching her own movie and dancing.
Casting what-ifs
  • Tom Cruise was considered for the Rick Dalton role before Leonardo DiCaprio was cast.
  • Tarantino has said he could see the Rick and Cliff dynamic working with different actor pairings, but Leo and Brad were the dream team.
Over-acting award
  • Leonardo DiCaprio in the trailer breakdown – sobbing into a mirror after flubbing his lines on the Lancer set. 'You're Rick fucking Dalton.'
  • Al Pacino as Marvin Schwarz – 'you could do anything you want with him. Throw him off a building. Light him on fire. Hit him with a Lincoln. Get creative.'
Best "that guy"
  • Nicholas Hammond as Sam Wanamaker, the Lancer director – gives Rick a real pep talk about what an actor can bring to a villain role.
  • Clifton Collins Jr. as Ernesto the Mexican Vaquero – one of the Lancer actors who Rick squares off against.
  • Damon Harriman as Charles Manson – brief but chilling appearance at the Tate house door.
Best "heat check" performance
  • Margaret Quay as Pussycat the hitchhiker (winner).
  • Nicholas Hammond as Sam Wanamaker (dark Hamlet).
  • Lorenza Izzo as Francesca Capucci
  • Austin Butler as Tex Watson.
Re-casting couch
  • Sean would keep the movie exactly as is – 'I don't think there's a person in this movie I'd want to change.'
  • Bill floated the idea of Jodie Foster in one of the female roles but didn't commit to a specific recast.
Half-assed (internet) research
  • Tarantino worked on the script for five years and did a deep-dive interview with Kim Morgan mapping out Rick Dalton's entire fictional career trajectory through the 1970s.
  • Tarantino said the look and style of the characters was heavily influenced by Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice (1969).
  • The film's 1969 recreation was so meticulous that Tarantino had the production design team rebuild entire blocks of Hollywood Boulevard.
  • Tarantino revealed he started experimenting with releasing extended cuts on Netflix, and the extended cut of OUATIH significantly expands Brandy the dog's role.
Apex Mountain
  • Post-prime Brad Pitt – yes. 'Not prime Brad Pitt' (that's 'Fight Club'/Ocean's 11 era, dating Jennifer Aniston), but post-prime Pitt absolutely.
  • 1969 as a year – Mets won the World Series, moon landing, Woodstock, Nixon Year One. 'Next level shit going on.'
  • Los Angeles movies – in the conversation for best LA movie ever made, alongside Heat, 'Boyz n the Hood', and Nightcrawler.
  • Not Margot Robbie's Apex Mountain – 'I hope not, I think she has better things ahead.'
  • Not Julia Butters' Apex Mountain yet – 'I hope not.'
Picking nits
  • Are we sure Cliff Booth would turn down a blowjob from a hitchhiker in 1969? 'He's a wife-killing stuntman and it's the '60s. He all of a sudden has a moral compass?'
  • Did we ever figure out why Cliff's dog never went to the bathroom in the trailer? 'How many hours is that dog in one place?'
  • Are we supposed to think Cliff is a good guy? 'Neither is Rick – he is a vain, selfish dick on the wrong side of his life. A wife-killing stuntman.'
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?

Yes – 'not only could it have been remade, I think a lot of directors would have chosen to play it that way and take a giant check.' Tarantino has been experimenting with Netflix for extended cuts, and the movie easily could have been a 10-episode series. He's also threatening 5 episodes of Bounty Law.

(Probably) unanswerable questions
  • Did Cliff kill his wife? 'Purposefully ambiguous.' Bill and Chris say yes, Sean won't answer.
  • What do Rick Dalton's next 10 years on IMDb look like? Tarantino mapped it out: Streets of San Francisco, Charlie's Angels, Vegas, Rockford Files – getting older and looking worse. Eventually ends up on Mystery Science Theater 3000.
Who won the movie?

Chris: DiCaprio – 'does like low-key 6 roles in this movie. Every version of who he's playing is so varied. A mind-blowing piece of acting.' Bill: Brad Pitt – 'he was the first guy I thought of. I'd given up on him and he came roaring back.' Sean: Tarantino – 'he wins all of his movies. No other person could have made it.'