'Mean Girls'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Juliet Litman, and Amanda Dobbins try to make 'fetch' happen as they rewatch the 2004 comedy 'Mean Girls,' starring Lindsay Lohan and Rachel McAdams and written by Tina Fey.

Cast
Lindsay Lohan as Cady Heron
Rachel McAdams as Regina George
Lacey Chabert as Gretchen Wieners
Amanda Seyfried as Karen Smith
Lizzy Caplan as Janis Ian
Tina Fey as Ms. Norbury
Amy Poehler as Mrs. George
Tim Meadows as Principal Duvall
Jonathan Bennett as Aaron Samuels
Daniel Franzese as Damien
Directed by: Mark Waters
Written by: Tina Fey
Notes
- $17 million budget, grossed $129 million. One of the best Lorne Michaels movies ever alongside 'Wayne's World' and 'Tommy Boy'.
- Adapted from the nonfiction book Queen Bees and Wannabes by Rosalind Wiseman, about social dynamics at a North Shore Chicago high school.
- Original title was 'Homeschooled.' When Tina Fey pitched the concept of relational aggression among girls to Lorne Michaels, he said 'okay, but could they also have cool cars and cool clothes?'
- Lindsay Lohan was compared to Jodie Foster by Roger Ebert after Freaky Friday. Parent Trap (2002), Freaky Friday ($160M gross, 88% RT), then 'Mean Girls' was a monster run before everything fell apart.
- Lohan originally wanted to play Regina George, saying she wanted to be the cool girl on set. Director Mark Waters insisted she play Cady as the heroine.
- Rachel McAdams was 25 (some say 27) playing a high schooler. Had done almost nothing before this – it launched her into 'The Notebook' and 'Wedding Crashers'.
- Amanda Seyfried had just graduated high school. Lacey Chabert took her in on set and they'd hang out in her trailer listening to Dido.
- Tim Meadows broke his hand before shooting, so they wrote in the carpal tunnel cast.
- Amy Poehler was 7 years older than Rachel McAdams, playing her mother.
- To go from R to PG-13: 'is your cherry popped' became 'is your muffin buttered' and 'masturbated with a hot dog' became 'made out with a hot dog.'
- The cocktail wiener-in-bra trick was how they got the Chihuahua to bite Amy Poehler's character's chest. They thought the dog was going to tear her apart.
- Mark Waters (director) is the brother of Daniel Waters, who wrote Heathers – connecting two of the smartest teen movies ever made.
- 'Mean Girls' Day became October 3rd, a huge internet phenomenon. The movie was one of the earliest meme-specific films, with the Obama campaign even using 'Mean Girls' memes.
Categories
- The talent show Jingle Bell Rock performance – iconic and completely took over that song. A little too sexy for a high school function.
- The sabotage montage – though Aaron Samuels never questions what's going on after chasing the purse thief.
- The four-way phone call.
- The 'watch where you're going fat ass' lunch scene followed by Lohan realizing she's the new queen bee.
- The burn book blowout, everyone fighting, and Tim Meadows yelling 'Step away from the underage girls!'
- Janis Ian's confession and Regina getting hit by the bus.
- Bill picks the burn book blowout through the gym scene. Amanda picks the first lunch scene with the Plastics. Juliet picks the pink shirt hallway walk.
- Regina George – an all-time great high school villain. Diabolical but you want to root for her in a weird way.
- The cast: Lohan at her peak, young Rachel McAdams, early Lizzy Caplan, Tina Fey, barely-on-SNL Amy Poehler, Tim Meadows, Amanda Seyfried, Lacey Chabert.
- The homeschooling jokes – a great gimmick that sets up the outsider premise perfectly.
- The movie becoming one of the earliest meme-specific films with massive internet afterlife.
- The 'old boyfriends are off-limits to friends, that's just the rules of feminism' quote.
- Janis Ian's goth look – people actually started dressing like her a few years later.
- The whole movie has aged really well. Other than no cell phones, it could come out right now.
- Four-way phone calls – nobody does this anymore, it feels like it's from a hundred years ago.
- The soundtrack isn't good enough. Should have captured the alternative rock scene. They underestimate the tastes of young women and make it sound like a deodorant commercial.
- Aaron Samuels' (Jonathan Bennett) IMDb – nothing else happened for him.
- Coach Carr and the underage girls plotline – they make a joke of it but it's uncomfortable.
- Samantha Ronson's 'Built This Way' playing throughout – Lohan ended up dating Ronson a year later, which throws you off.
- The Africa references treating the entire continent as a singular jungle place.
- Katie dumbing herself down to win over Aaron Samuels – never sat right with Bill.
- Lindsay Lohan and Rachel McAdams originally auditioned for the opposite roles.
- James Franco was considered for Aaron Samuels – would have been a darker, different energy that changes the movie.
- Elisha Cuthbert lost the part of Regina George.
- Kevin G – rips his shirt in half after the mathletes win, tries to take up space in a movie where the men don't really exist.
- Damien – a little too much with the candy cane deliveries and the talent show.
- Bill nominates Amy Poehler's cool mom performance – 'maybe reel it in about 10%.' Amanda and Juliet strongly disagree.
- Tim Meadows – every scene he's in is really funny. Does a lot with a little and sells probably the worst-written character in the movie.
- Also considered: Amy Poehler and Amanda Seyfried.
- 'Mean Girls' Day was adopted as October 3rd and is a major internet phenomenon.
- Original title was 'Homeschooled.'
- Tim Meadows broke his hand before filming – that's why his character has the carpal tunnel cast.
- Amy Poehler was 7 years older than Rachel McAdams when playing her mother.
- To get from R to PG-13: 'is your cherry popped' became 'is your muffin buttered.'
- Amanda Seyfried: 'I just graduated high school. It was terrifying. Lacey Chabert was my angel. She took me in and we'd hang out in her trailer and listen to Dido.'
- There was a direct-to-video sequel, 'Mean Girls' 2, that premiered on ABC Family in January 2011.
- Lindsay Lohan pitched a sequel idea to Tina Fey and wrote a treatment for it.
- The 'Mean Girls' Broadway musical opened to great reviews.
- 'Cocktail' wiener in Amy Poehler's bra to get the Chihuahua to bite.
- Lindsay Lohan – undeniable, maybe the most obvious Apex Mountain they've ever done on the podcast.
- Tina Fey – debatable since 30 Rock plus the Sarah Palin impression on SNL might be higher.
- Not Apex Mountain for Rachel McAdams – 'The Notebook' and 'Wedding Crashers' trilogy gave her more career power.
- Not Apex Mountain for Lacey Chabert – that's Party of Five.
Damien (Daniel Franzese) – he is just Damien from 'Mean Girls'. People see him and immediately go 'Damien!'
- Regina George falling for the Kälteen bar trick – she would have every calorie count memorized. Bill's wife's biggest issue with the movie.
- Katie winning prom queen after the burn book debacle – she started the whole thing, so why would people vote for her? (It's a rejection vote of Regina.)
- Kevin G and Janis Ian thrown together at the end makes no sense.
- Tina Fey and Tim Meadows together at the end – not workplace appropriate.
- Katie's speech at the prom sucks – feels imported from a bad Hallmark movie.
- The tiara breaking too easily.
- The bus going way too fast through a school crosswalk.
Could work, 100%, but only if done to the standard of the original movie. If it's another basic Netflix/ABC Family teen show, they'd pass.
- Did Regina George become an All-American lacrosse player in college? (Yes – they debate Duke vs. Northwestern.)
- Did Katie and Aaron Samuels break up at Halloween or Thanksgiving? (Thanksgiving, at Gretchen's house.)
- Bill says Rachel McAdams – comes out of nowhere, creates an all-time character, and it launches a career.
- But Lindsay Lohan's talent was once-in-a-generation – Roger Ebert compared her to Jodie Foster. Her downfall is one of the great Hollywood tragedies, comparable to a star athlete who gets hurt.