February 18, 2019

'Dave'

The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Amanda Dobbins take a seat in the Oval Office on Presidents Day to celebrate the 1993 comedy 'Dave,' starring Kevin Kline, Sigourney Weaver, and Frank Langella.

Movie poster

Cast

Kevin Kline as Dave Kovic / President Bill Mitchell

Sigourney Weaver as First Lady Ellen Mitchell

Frank Langella as Bob Alexander

Ben Kingsley as Vice President Nance

Ving Rhames as Duane Stevenson

Laura Linney as Randi

Charles Grodin as Murray Blum

Kevin Dunn as Alan Reed

Directed by: Ivan Reitman

Written by: Gary Ross

Notes

  • 25th anniversary episode. 95% on Rotten Tomatoes, made $63 million. Written by Gary Ross while he was working on the Michael Dukakis presidential campaign. Oscar-nominated for screenplay.
  • Ivan Reitman's run from 1979-1993: Meatballs, Stripes, Ghostbusters, Legal Eagles, Twins, Ghostbusters II, Kindergarten Cop, Dave. Not all home runs but no outs. Dave may be his last truly great movie.
  • Kevin Kline's nickname is 'Kevin Decline' because he turned down so many movies. Married Phoebe Cates and both basically stopped caring about Hollywood. He does whatever movies he wants and spends most of his time doing theater.
  • Bill Clinton gave Gary Ross an autographed copy of the script saying it was 'funny and accurate.' Barack Obama told Kline 'I love Dave. I love watching it when I'm depressed because you make it look so fun.'
  • Ben Kingsley's 1993 was a murderer's row: Dave, Schindler's List, and 'Searching for Bobby Fischer'.
  • The film's Oval Office set was reused more than 25 times in subsequent productions including 'The Pelican Brief', Hot Shots! Part Deux, and Absolute Power.
  • The president having a stroke during sex is inspired by Nelson Rockefeller, who died in 1979 during an encounter with his 22-year-old assistant. The Woodrow Wilson parallel is even more dramatic – his wife essentially ran the presidency for two years after his stroke in 1919.
  • Ivan Reitman's wife and son appear as Vice President Nance's family at the swearing-in. The son is Jason Reitman, who became a famous director.

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Roger Ebert's review

Quote from Rog's review:

This movie is more proof that it isn't what you do, it's how you do it. Ivan Reitman's direction and Gary Ross's screenplay use intelligence and warm-hearted sentiment to make wonderful light-hearted entertainment.

Three and a half stars. 'This movie is more proof that it isn't what you do, it's how you do it.'

Most re-watchable scene
  • Dave fixes the budget in four minutes – cutting delinquent defense contracts and a $47 million car marketing campaign to fund homeless shelters. 'I don't want to tell some eight-year-old kid he's got to sleep in the street because we want people to feel better about their car.'
  • 'I would have taken a bullet for you' – Ving Rhames to Dave at the end. Male-on-male Shawshank Beach hug territory.
  • The Montage of Dave as president – the McLaughlin Group, throwing out the first pitch at Camden Yards, real senators reacting. Using real politicians sells the whole thing.
  • Dave fires Bob Alexander and gives the jobs speech – 'If you've ever seen the look on somebody's face the day they finally get a job...'
  • Dave's last speech and the stroke as Bob Alexander's world falls apart in the party room.
  • Dave and the first lady pulled over by cops, singing 'Tomorrow' – her voice is so bad and the cop shining the flashlight in his eyes is perfect comedic timing.
What aged the best?
  • The cameos: Oliver Stone, Tip O'Neill, Jay Leno, Arnold Schwarzenegger, the McLaughlin Group, early Camden Yards, Ben Stein, Paul Simon. Very 1993.
  • The Kevin Kline-Ving Rhames friendship scenes. 'Sweaters would make my neck look too thick.'
  • The DC locations – one of the only movies that realistically portrays what it's like to drive around DC.
  • Kevin Kline's performance – walks a fine tonal line that almost nobody else could pull off.
  • The Clinton/Hillary marriage parallels – pre-Lewinsky but the public was already suspicious of the Clintons' marriage.
What aged the worst?
  • The first 25 minutes are the weakest part – the movie takes off from the moment Mitchell goes down.
  • Charles Grodin's wig. Bill hates it when actors suddenly have full heads of hair.
  • Jay Leno's cameo – 'This guy having too many Happy Meals or what?' Just not funny.
  • The 'everyone gets a job' program is basically socialism and completely unrealistic as policy.
Casting what-ifs
  • Robin Williams was considered – makes sense but Kevin Kline's subtlety is what makes it work. Robin Williams would have turned it into a circus.
  • Warner Brothers wanted a box-office star; Arnold Schwarzenegger was discussed at one point.
  • Warren Beatty took it seriously and actually brought Dave to Ivan Reitman – that's how Reitman got the movie.
  • Kevin Costner was considered. He had the most power he'd ever have in his career at that point.
  • Kline almost turned it down because he thought it was too similar to his A Fish Called Wanda character.
Best "heat check" performance
  • Oliver Stone – in the movie for 20 seconds and makes like seven threes.
  • Bonnie Hunt as the White House tour guide – 'We're walking, we're walking.' Really funny.
Best "that guy"

Kevin Dunn – 'I never knew his name was Kevin Dunn until I started researching the movie.' Mississippi Burning, Hot Shots, Dave, Nixon, Godzilla, Stir of Echoes, the Transformers movies, Warrior, five years on Veep. He is the quintessential that guy.

Over-acting award
  • Frank Langella – he really dials it up. When Dave's balancing the budget, it cuts to Langella staring out the window with his eyes bulging like a maniac. 'He's not a president. He's an ordinary person. I could kill an ordinary person. I could kill a hundred ordinary people.'
  • Charles Grodin – unclear what he's going for. Is this guy partially brain-damaged? His best moment: after helping balance the budget, Dave drops him off and Grodin says 'Get out of here.'
Half-assed (internet) research
  • Bill Clinton approved of the film and gave Gary Ross an autographed script.
  • Barack Obama told Kevin Kline 'I love Dave' because it made the job look fun.
  • The Oval Office set was reused 25+ times. The President's bedroom looks nothing like the Sorkin version.
  • They added the scene where Dave and the First Lady impersonate presidential impersonators late in the shoot because Reitman didn't buy that they would click so quickly.
  • A musical based on the movie opened in 2018.
  • President Mitchell's stroke is inspired by Nelson Rockefeller dying during an encounter with his 22-year-old assistant in 1979. The Woodrow Wilson precedent – his wife ran the presidency for two years after his 1919 stroke.
Apex Mountain
  • Kevin Kline – yes. Coming off the Oscar for A Fish Called Wanda, now this. He has more power and leverage than he'll ever have again.
  • Frank Langella – this is his signature fun performance, his most iconic role. Dracula might be the actual apex but this is the most fun.
Picking nits
  • They found a body double for the president so he could have sex with staff – the concept of a presidential body double is ludicrous, though Bill insists it's probably happened in American history.
  • What happened to Dave's temp agency during the five months he was president?
  • A lot of people knew about Mitchell's stroke and the payouts were extremely low – 50K, 50K, 100K, and one doctor who asked to be head of the CDC. That's not enough money for the biggest story in American political history.
  • Dave wanders around on the balcony as the president – major security concern, sniper territory.
  • The shower scene – shouldn't the First Lady have known it wasn't her husband after 30 years of marriage? (Amanda: the conditions were different.)
  • This is technically a coup d'etat. No one elected any of these people or allowed them to make these decisions.
(Probably) unanswerable questions
  • Would Dave ever come clean that he was actually President Mitchell for five months? He'd probably be arrested for treason.
  • Who would divorce Dave? He's such a good guy. Sean argues he's actually a charlatan – a magic-trick-spewing impersonator who forces his friend to hire people.
  • Was Dave more or less healthy than President Mitchell? (The shower scene implications.)
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?

1000% yes – Bill greenlit it immediately. But the tone question is crucial: is it an optimistic comedy or the story of a coup and a cover-up? Making it about a Trump-like figure who gets replaced would inadvertently humanize the administration.

Who won the movie?

Kevin Kline – easy. Shout out to Ving Rhames. Stealth case for Ivan Reitman because this kind of movie is really hard to get the tone right on.