'Con Air'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano, and Chris Ryan hijack the podcast to discuss 1997 action thriller 'Con Air' starring Nicolas Cage, John Cusack, and John Malkovich, directed by Simon West. Welcome aboard.

Cast
Nicolas Cage as Cameron Poe
John Cusack as Vince Larkin
John Malkovich as Cyrus 'The Virus' Grissom
Steve Buscemi as Garland 'The Marietta Mangler' Greene
Ving Rhames as Nathan 'Diamond Dog' Jones
Dave Chappelle as Pinball
Danny Trejo as Johnny 23
Colm Meaney as DEA Agent Malloy
Monica Potter as Tricia Poe
Directed by: Simon West
Written by: Scott Rosenberg
Notes
- Made $224 million on a $75 million budget. 55% on Rotten Tomatoes but Roger Ebert gave it 3 out of 4 stars. Nominated for two Oscars including Best Original Song ('How Do I Live').
- Bill declares this might be the best movie ever made: an airplane prison break movie with Steve Buscemi, John Malkovich, and mulleted Nicolas Cage doing roundhouses with a Georgia accent.
- Catches Nic Cage during one of the most epic rewatchable runs ever: Leaving Las Vegas (Oscar), The Rock, 'Con Air', 'Face/Off' – the Holy Trilogy of action movies after winning an Oscar. Kid Rock based 'American Badass' on Cameron Poe.
- Jerry Bruckheimer's first movie without Don Simpson. Simon West's directorial debut. The crash was filmed at the Sands Hotel before its demolition in November 1996. The climactic crash was originally planned for the White House before Bruckheimer decided Vegas was more in keeping with the film's spirit.
- Dave Chappelle improvised most of his lines (confirmed on the DVD commentary of Chappelle's Show). They only had him for three days. Getting rid of Chappelle at 43 minutes was one of the movie's biggest mistakes.
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Quote from Rog's review:
“Con Air is a movie that knows it is absurd, and doesn't care.”
Ebert said it "moves smoothly, and with visual style and verbal wit." Bill notes his streak of agreeing with Ebert continues.
- Cusack's scouting report introducing all the inmates – Bill wishes it was six minutes long.
- Nic Cage killing the guy in the opening rainstorm fight.
- The cons take over the plane – the safety pin through the hand, the handcuff picking.
- "Put the bunny back in the box."
- The crouching fight scene – the first ever where both fighters have to duck down.
- Buscemi and Cage: "What if I told you insane was working 50 hours a week in some office..."
- Stealing the second plane / boneyard sequence with propane everywhere.
- The plane landing on the Vegas Strip.
- Malkovich saying the title in the movie – "Welcome to 'Con Air'." Bill loves when characters say the movie title.
- Nic Cage – people forget the guy won an Oscar and was awesome. He's an actor first, unlike the 80s action guys who had to act a little bit.
- Malkovich's whole run – 'In the Line of Fire', 'Con Air', 'Rounders'. He's 100% evil in this movie and believes everything he's saying.
- Chappelle has aged incredibly well – so much of the humor in this movie comes from him.
- The nickname brainstorming: Cyrus the Virus, Diamond Dog, Billy Bedlam, The Marietta Mangler, Johnny 23.
- The Sally Can't Dance character – rough even in 1997, and definitely hasn't gotten better.
- Getting rid of Chappelle at 43 minutes – he could have helped the last two thirds of the movie.
- Cusack's hair – his first time losing the flowing mane, blowing around like Trump's in a convertible.
- The insulin subplot – "Do we actually need him having diabetic shock the entire movie?"
- The racially-charged language – a couple lines that make you go "whoa."
- Johnny 23 – the serial rapist angle was rough even then and really doesn't play now.
- Gary Oldman was the first choice to play Cyrus the Virus – no thanks.
- Robert Downey Jr., Charlie Sheen, and Matthew Broderick were considered for Cusack's part. Downey could have done it but would be 30% too cool for the role.
- Tim Roth was the first choice for the Marietta Mangler – thank God that didn't work out.
- Denzel Washington was reportedly asked to play Diamond Dog but turned it down.
- Dave Chappelle – improvised most of his lines, only there for three days, and was the funniest person in the movie.
- Swamp Thing (MC Gainey) – fun in a few scenes, charming despite probably being in the Aryan Brotherhood.
- Monica Potter – she's in 'Con Air', Patch Adams, the Prefontaine movie. You know her face but not her name.
- Renoly Santiago (Sally Can't Dance) – only been in two movies, this and 'Dangerous Minds' where he was the kid who won the class prize.
- Kid Rock based 'American Badass' on Cameron Poe.
- Nic Cage did most of his own stunts – explosions five feet behind him, flaming helicopters dropping right behind him.
- 43 people die in the movie. Another 500+ probably died when the plane landed on the Vegas Strip.
- The crash site was filmed at the Sands Hotel before its demolition. They asked the Sands to wait a couple weeks for filming.
- Someone was crushed to death during filming at the airport – the film's credits end with "in memory of Phil Schwarz."
- They chose Trisha Yearwood's version of 'How Do I Live' over LeAnn Rimes's, who was 14 at the time.
- Malkovich was unhappy during production because the script was rewritten daily – he had no idea how his character would turn out.
- Chappelle improvised most of his lines (confirmed on Chappelle's Show DVD commentary).
- Nicolas Cage – yes. Wins the Oscar, then The Rock, 'Con Air', 'Face/Off'. This is when Bill knew Cage was in our lives for the long haul. Bill's favorite Cage performance.
- Danny Trejo – no. His Apex Mountain is probably machete or just being a brand with all his businesses now.
- Steve Buscemi – no. But he's so good they clearly added the craps scene at the end because he tested through the roof.
- Colm Meaney as the DEA agent – the clear winner. Dials everything up to insane levels, overpowers everybody in every scene. Terrible in the "don't fire" helicopter scene. Also terrible in Mystery Alaska.
- Ving Rhames – really tries to be evil and goes a little far.
- The soundtrack itself could be nominated for overacting.
- Cameron Poe's terrible lawyer and ridiculous conviction – an honorably discharged Army Ranger going to prison for self-defense. The worst legal representation of all time.
- Why is there no armed guard on the plane with a gun? Just one person with a rifle.
- A plane landing on the packed Vegas Strip – hundreds of people would have died. Vegas at 4am is busier than anywhere else in the world.
- The fist-bumping at the end when they just killed 500 Americans on the Strip.
- Can you really pull a safety pin out of your hand like that?
- Why didn't they just shoot the plane down?
- Did they name the movie 'Con Air' before or after they wrote the script? Bill believes someone saw a conditioner bottle in the shower and said "that sounds like a thing."
- Would Monica Potter really wait 8+ years for Nicolas Cage through Army service and prison?
- Would Nic Cage really stay on the plane to save Baby-O and the guard when he could just get off and be with his family?
- Billy Bedlam killed everyone in his wife's family including the dog – did the wife live? Yes, he wanted her to live with the pain.
Nicolas Cage – legacy-defining role. This plus 'Face/Off' is when he became the biggest star on planet Earth. Bill's favorite Cage performance: the white tank top, dad jeans, mullet, great letters to Casey, and the bunny.