October 11, 2021
'Cobra'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons and Kyle Brandt are the disease, and this podcast is the cure. We rewatch the 1986 action-horror film 'Cobra' starring Sylvester Stallone, Brigitte Nielsen, and Reni Santoni.

Cast
Sylvester Stallone as Marion 'Cobra' Cobretti
Brigitte Nielsen as Ingrid Knudsen
Reni Santoni as Sergeant Tony Gonzales
Brian Thompson as The Night Slasher
Directed by: George P. Cosmatos
Written by: Sylvester Stallone
Notes
- $25 million budget, made $160 million worldwide.
- Body count: 52 total, 41 killed by Marion Cobretti.
- Almost got an X rating for violence (not sex).
- Born from Stallone's rejected 'Beverly Hills Cop' script – 'so over the top and expensive with so many explosions and no humor at all.'
- Stallone was meant to build a third franchise: 'Rocky', Rambo, and Cobra.
- Stallone and Warner Brothers were so worried about 'Top Gun' that they edited it under 90 minutes for more screenings. The rough cut was well over two hours.
- Originally supposed to be filmed in Seattle climaxing with a motorcycle chase on a ferry – Stallone cancelled it because of mosquitoes during night shoots.
- The supporting cast and extras were forbidden to talk to Stallone on set.
- Brian Thompson kept asking about his character's backstory; Stallone snapped: 'Look, the guy's just evil, okay?'
- Nicolas Winding Refn's Drive (2011) – Ryan Gosling's toothpick was a direct Cobra homage.
- Cobra's car was a 1950 Mercury with an 'AWESOME 50' license plate, actually owned by Stallone. They made 3 replicas for chase scenes.
- The Night Slasher's knife was designed by knife maker Herman Schneider at Stallone's request.
- Director George P. Cosmatos was effectively a figurehead – multiple people said Stallone was really directing.
- Famous SNL sketch where Norm MacDonald makes fun of Cobra to Stallone's face.
Categories
Most re-watchable scene
Bill and Kyle both pick the grocery store scene – the supermarket siege where Cobra arrives, then eating frozen pizza with scissors at his apartment. Kyle: 'It is the grocery store scene in any movie.'
What aged the best?
- The opening monologue with crime statistics – 'In America, there's a burglary every 11 seconds.'
- The movie poster: 'Crime is a disease. Meet the cure.' – 'one of the better movie posters of the last 40 years.'
- Brian Thompson as the Night Slasher – genuinely scary and effective.
- Stallone's match/toothpick gimmick.
- Cobra's car – 1950 Mercury with 'AWESOME 50' license plate.
- The Zombie Squad name.
- Massive product placement (Pepsi, Coors, Toys R Us) – possibly Apex Mountain for awkward product placement.
What aged the worst?
- Brigitte Nielsen's wig – 'makes her look like Robert Plant.'
- The Robert Tepper 'Angel of the City' montage – a fashion shoot with robots intercut with Stallone walking through Skid Row.
- Andrew Robinson's character – Stallone punches him at the end as an overt 'fuck you, Dirty Harry.'
- The 'Feel the Heat' by Jean Beauvoir montage during the safe house drive.
- The cut original ending where Robinson's character was revealed as the real cult leader via a satanic tattoo – would have actually been great.
Over-acting award
- Winner: Marco Rodriguez as the supermarket killer – 'I'll kill you all, man!'
- Also created a new category: the 'Marion Cobretti Underacting Award' for Stallone – mumbles so much Bill had to turn on subtitles.
Best "that guy"
- Winner: Art LaFleur (Sly's boss) – the first baseman from 'Field of Dreams'. 'He looks like Fred Flintstone.'
- Also discussed: Reni Santoni (Poppy from Seinfeld), Andrew Robinson (Dirty Harry villain).
Re-casting couch
- Bill: Replace Brigitte Nielsen with Markie Post (from Night Court).
- Kyle: Dolph Lundgren as the Night Slasher – 'just get the band back together.' Bill counters that Dolph would overshadow the role.
Half-assed (internet) research
- Based on the novel 'Fair Game' by Paula Gosling.
- Originally to be filmed in Seattle – cancelled because of mosquitoes.
- The rough cut was over 2 hours; a director's cut is 40 minutes longer with cult backstory.
- Brian Thompson asked about his character's motivation; Stallone said 'Look, the guy's just evil, okay?'
- Cobra's car was Stallone's real 1950 Mercury; 3 replicas were made.
- Ryan Gosling's toothpick in Drive was a direct Cobra homage.
Apex Mountain
- Stallone – no, it's 'Rocky IV'.
- Brigitte Nielsen – Kyle says Flavor of Love, Bill says 'Rocky IV'.
- Stocking mask as serial killer gimmick – yes, Apex Mountain.
- Serial killer cults – yes, Apex Mountain.
- Product placement in movies – possibly ('Back to the Future' is a competitor).
- 1950 Mercury Monterey – yes, Apex Mountain.
Picking nits
- Brigitte Nielsen as a fashion model is a stretch.
- Cobretti takes the witness to a safe house even though he knows there's a mole and everyone seems to know where it is.
- The 'What's the magic word? / Please' exchange is a direct ripoff from Ghostbusters.
(Probably) unanswerable questions
- How did you join the axe-clanging serial killer cult? How do they recruit?
- Did this movie invent the nitrous boost in action movies?
- Has any movie star ever been shot at more by people with terrible aim than Stallone?
- Does the Night Slasher check the most boxes of any horror movie villain?
What memorabilia would you want (or not want!) from the movie?
- Bill: The Night Slasher's knife.
- Kyle: The 'AWESOME 50' license plate from Cobra's car – wants it for his 50th birthday party.
Who won the movie?
- Bill: Stallone.
- Kyle: The knife – 'the indelible image of this movie.'
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?
- Kyle pitches 'Cobretti's son, Marion the Second' dealing with modern policing restrictions.
- Bill suggests Tom Hardy as Bruno Cobretti – played completely straight, not knowing it's a comedy.