July 15, 2020

'25th Hour'

The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Wesley Morris of The New York Times to spend their last day together watching Spike Lee's 2002 film, '25th Hour,' starring Edward Norton, Philip Seymour Hoffman, and Rosario Dawson.

Movie poster

Cast

Edward Norton as Monty Brogan

Philip Seymour Hoffman as Jacob Elinsky

Barry Pepper as Frank Slaughtery

Rosario Dawson as Naturelle Riviera

Anna Paquin as Mary D'Annunzio

Brian Cox as James Brogan

Directed by: Spike Lee

Written by: David Benioff

Cinematography by: Rodrigo Prieto

Music by: Terence Blanchard

Notes

  • Bill considers this one of the best movies of the last 20 years. He's been wanting to do this episode for a while and saved it for Wesley Morris.
  • David Benioff's novel predated 9/11 – the book was already written when the attacks happened. Spike Lee chose to lean into the post-9/11 setting rather than remove it, making it the definitive 9/11 New York movie without being 'about' 9/11.
  • Disney wanted to cut the bathroom mirror monologue but Spike Lee and Benioff refused. It's now considered the signature scene of the film.
  • Edward Norton used his salary from Red Dragon to help produce the film. Made $23.9 million on a $5 million budget.
  • Completely shut out of the 2003 Oscars – no nominations at all. Bill and Wesley are baffled by this.

Categories

Roger Ebert's review

Quote from Rog's review:

Spike Lee finds the right note for every scene. He has made the best of his many films.

Ebert put it on his Great Movies list and named it one of the best films of the decade.

Most re-watchable scene
  • The bathroom mirror monologue – Norton's 'fuck you' speech running through every ethnic group and type of New Yorker. Disney wanted it cut. Now it's the movie's signature scene.
  • The nightclub sequence – roughly 24 minutes of the three guys' last night out together.
  • The opening scene with Monty finding the dog on the side of the road.
What aged the best?
  • The 9/11 elements – the way Spike Lee wove Ground Zero and post-9/11 New York into the fabric of the film. It's become THE signature 9/11 movie.
  • Rodrigo Prieto's cinematography – gorgeous, moody work throughout.
  • Terence Blanchard's score.
What aged the worst?

The Philip Seymour Hoffman/Anna Paquin teacher-student subplot – a teacher being attracted to his high school student plays very differently now.

Casting what-ifs
  • Brittany Murphy was considered for the Mary D'Annunzio role.
  • Tobey Maguire originally bought the rights to the novel and was going to star as Monty Brogan.
Over-acting award

CANCELLED – Bill and Wesley agree this is a 'movie of restraint.' Everyone is dialed in and understated.

Best "heat check" performance

Patrice O'Neal – one minute of screen time, great minute. Steals his scene completely.

Best "that guy"

Tony Siragusa – the former NFL defensive tackle shows up and is memorable.

Apex Mountain
  • Edward Norton – though 'Fight Club' is his other peak. This is his most complete dramatic performance.
  • 9/11 movies – this is THE one. The definitive post-9/11 film.
  • Barry Pepper – between this and 61*, his apex moment.
Picking nits

Would making himself uglier really help Monty in prison? Bill argues the point isn't practical – it's about Monty wanting punishment and his friend giving him that.

Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?

Yes – the concept of a guy's last day before going to prison would make a great limited series. You could expand the backstory and the supporting characters' lives.

Who won the movie?

Spike Lee – made a masterpiece on a $5 million budget that became the definitive post-9/11 New York film.

(Probably) unanswerable questions
  • Is the movie better with Matt Damon in Barry Pepper's role?
  • What happens when Monty gets out of prison?
Best double feature for this movie

Clockers – Bill calls '25th Hour' 'the B-side to Clockers' as Spike Lee New York crime films.