January 14, 2019
'Old School'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey relive the glory days as they rewatch the 2003 comedy 'Old School,' starring Luke Wilson, Vince Vaughn, and Will Ferrell.

Cast
Luke Wilson as Mitch Martin
Vince Vaughn as Beanie
Will Ferrell as Frank 'The Tank' Ricard
Jeremy Piven as Dean Gordon 'Cheese' Pritchard
Ellen Pompeo as Nicole
Juliette Lewis as Heidi
Elisha Cuthbert as Darcie
Craig Kilborn as Mark
Directed by: Todd Phillips
Written by: Todd Phillips
Notes
- $24 million budget, grossed $76 million domestic. 60% on Rotten Tomatoes.
- Weirdly important movie for Will Ferrell – he'd been on SNL since 1995 but couldn't translate to movies. 'Old School', Elf, Anchorman back-to-back-to-back launched his movie career.
- Basically started the R-rated comedy boom: 'Old School', 40-Year-Old Virgin, 'Wedding Crashers', 'Superbad', 'Step Brothers', 'Knocked Up', 'Forgetting Sarah Marshall', 'The Hangover'.
- Todd Phillips came from documentary filmmaking – his student film 'Hated' about punk singer GG Allin opened doors at HBO. He helped develop Taxicab Confessions as an intern.
- Todd Phillips and Scott Armstrong wrote the part of Beanie with Vince Vaughn in mind. Studios didn't think Vaughn could do comedy – Phillips told them to watch him on Letterman.
- Frank the Tank is basically the extension of Ferrell's Dodge Stratus SNL character – suburban insanity.
- Todd Phillips plays the 'I'm here for the gang bang' guy in the movie.
- Will Ferrell ran naked for real during the streaking scene and horrified locals at a 24-hour gym. He needed to get a little drunk to do the second part in front of everybody during the Snoop Dogg performance.
- Patrick Cranshaw (Blue) had been acting for 50 years but 'Old School' finally made him famous. Also played the sheriff in all the Air Bud movies. Died shortly after.
- The fraternity house is a real house on Bushnell Avenue in Pasadena, also used in 'Back to the Future' 1 and 2 and 'Teen Wolf'.
- A sequel called 'Old School Dos' was written in 2006 – set at spring break – but Ferrell and Vaughn turned it down.
- Todd Phillips didn't take a check upfront for 'The Hangover' and only took points. He reportedly made $50 million on the original.
Categories
Most re-watchable scene
- Frank the Tank at Mitch-a-Palooza – the Speaker City speech, 'nice little Saturday,' getting him to drink, the streaking through the quad, his wife finding him naked.
- The blowjob class – incredible.
- The dart gun birthday party – including the bread maker re-gifting.
- Blue dying during the KY wrestling match, followed by Blue's funeral and Will Ferrell singing 'Dust in the Wind.'
- The first meeting in the kitchen – earmuffs, hockey stick destruction, the whole introduction to the movie's concept.
- The opening scene with Juliette Lewis and the blindfolded orgy people coming out of the bathroom.
- Bill goes with Frank the Tank's full streaking sequence. Chris goes with the hockey stick/earmuffs kitchen scene.
What aged the best?
- Getting frisked at TSA – probably the first comedy to have fun with post-9/11 airport security, set to Ryan Adams' 'To Be Young.'
- Ellen Pompeo – about to become one of the biggest TV stars of the last 40 years on Grey's Anatomy.
- 'Earmuffs' – entered the lexicon and people still say it without feeling like a loser quoting a movie line. It's like Kleenex.
- The Dan Band – became LA legends and showed up in more Todd Phillips movies.
- Snoop Dogg at a great point in his career, with his whole entourage including Don Magic Juan.
- The closing credits – put real thought into them with Kilborn crashing his car and Piven's car exploding. Phillips mastered this with 'The Hangover' Polaroids.
- The soundtrack: 'Here I Go Again,' 'Total Eclipse of the Heart,' 'Dust in the Wind,' 'Paid in Full' – murderers row.
- 'You're my boy, Blue!' – in the lexicon alongside earmuffs.
- Will Ferrell's career launch – this, Elf, Anchorman back-to-back-to-back.
What aged the worst?
- Elisha Cuthbert's character being in high school – Luke Wilson sleeping with high school girls is a tough beat.
- Craig Kilborn's acting – staggeringly bad, reading lines like Daily Show jokes while surrounded by professional actors.
- Jeremy Piven's toupee – he had to go back to the shop and figure out a better look.
- Artie Lange being in this movie as the unfunny straight man – bizarre.
- James Carville – both because it's unclear why he's in it and because in 2019 most people don't know who he is.
Best "heat check" performance
- Juliette Lewis – incredible in only two scenes. Probably her first real comedy role and she's an untapped comedic resource.
- Also considered: Craig Kilborn, The Dan Band, Patrick Cranshaw (Blue), Seann William Scott as Peppers.
Half-assed (internet) research
- A sequel called 'Old School Dos' was written in 2006 by Scott Armstrong – Ferrell and Vaughn turned it down. Ferrell said 'funny set pieces but it felt like repeating.'
- Todd Phillips plays the 'I'm here for the gang bang' guy in the movie.
- Will Ferrell ran naked for real and horrified locals at a 24-hour gym.
- Patrick Cranshaw (Blue) had been acting for 50 years before this made him famous. Died shortly after.
- The house is in Pasadena and was used in 'Back to the Future' 1 and 2, and 'Teen Wolf'.
- Luke Wilson was still game for a sequel in 2016.
- Snoop Dogg did 'Old School' to get into Starsky and Hutch.
Apex Mountain
- Will Ferrell – this launches him but Anchorman is probably the actual apex.
- Vince Vaughn – yes, this revives him. He gets out from under serious movie purgatory and goes on a run of Dodgeball, 'Wedding Crashers'.
- Luke Wilson – yes, this is his mainstream run alongside 'Legally Blonde', Charlie's Angels, and Tenenbaums.
- Craig Kilborn – he probably thinks so, but it's actually SportsCenter or the first year of The Daily Show.
- Elisha Cuthbert – possibly, between this and 24 season one.
Best "that guy"
- Patrick Fischler – the guy from Mad Men (Bobby Barrett's husband) and the Mulholland Drive diner scene. Very distinct, nobody knows his name.
- Patrick Adams – plays guitar during 'Dust in the Wind' as a deep background player, later becomes the star of Suits.
Over-acting award
- Andy Dick – out of his mind in his one scene. May have literally been out of his mind.
- Seann William Scott as Peppers – really going for it, especially the dart gun jugular reaction.
- Will Ferrell screaming 'We're going streaking!' at the top of his lungs is pretty Rubinek-esque.
Picking nits
- Why would Ellen Pompeo's character ever date Luke Wilson? He's drunk, spills a drink on her dress, she finds out he's involved with a high school girl, and he's basically The Stepfather for her child.
- Vince Vaughn not being a cheater – they had to zip that up to keep him sympathetic, but it's unrealistic.
- The last 15 minutes of conflict/stunts to win the fraternity back could have been better.
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?
No – they've seen this get remade over and over (Melissa McCarthy's Life of the Party). The midlife crisis elements would be labored in a series format.
(Probably) unanswerable questions
- Who's the 2019 Craig Kilborn for stunt casting? Joe Buck? Jalen Rose? Trevor Noah?
- Could they have improved the Luke Wilson spot? Chris Ryan: 'Luke Wilson is Harrison Ford' – one of the worst takes in podcast history according to Bill and Sean.
- Would this movie have been better with Owen Wilson as the star? (Julia Litman said yes.)
Who won the movie?
- Sean picks Todd Phillips – about to become bigger than Apatow, producing 'A Star Is Born' with Bradley Cooper.
- Chris picks Vince Vaughn – every single line is quotable, the best he's ever been.
- Bill picks Will Ferrell – this launches the comedy career of the century.