May 13, 2019
'John Wick: Chapter 2'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan are forced out of retirement (again) to rewatch the instant classic, 'John Wick: Chapter 2,' starring Keanu Reeves, Ian McShane, and Common.

Cast
Keanu Reeves as John Wick
Ian McShane as Winston
Common as Cassian
Laurence Fishburne as The Bowery King
Riccardo Scamarcio as Santino D'Antonio
Ruby Rose as Ares
Peter Stormare as Abram Tarasov
Directed by: Chad Stahelski
Notes
- $40 million budget that felt like a $200 million movie. Made $171 million worldwide. 89% on Rotten Tomatoes.
- Keanu did 95% of his own stunts.
- Chad Stahelski and David Leitch were both Keanu's stunt doubles on The Matrix. Leitch co-directed 'John Wick' 1, then went on to direct Deadpool 2, Atomic Blonde, and Hobbs & Shaw.
- The cinematographer Dan Laustsen came from Danish genre movies and became Guillermo del Toro's key cinematographer (The Shape of Water). He shot 'John Wick' 2 and 3.
- Jason Isaacs originally played Winston in 'John Wick' 1 before Ian McShane replaced him.
- 'John Wick' revived Keanu's career from what seemed like the end – he was headed toward the Travolta zone of weird direct-to-video movies. Now he's an A+ lister again across multiple generations.
- The Latin tattoo on Wick's back ('Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat' – Fortune favors the brave) is a recurring theme from their Matrix collaboration.
- Winston's order '11111' at the end matches JFK's Executive Order 11111. Five months after that order, 'JFK' was assassinated.
- The Continental TV series was greenlit in January 2018 – Bill was shocked to learn this live on the podcast.
- Body count estimated at 128.
Categories
Most re-watchable scene
- Bill: The nightclub fight in Rome after Gianna's death – 'Oh fuck, they took it to another level in this movie.'
- Sean and Chris: The subway concourse sequence – hyper-futuristic realization of the 'John Wick' underworld, the silencer fight with Common, the knife fight ('considers this a professional courtesy'), getting on at Lincoln Center going south.
- Other nominees: Getting the car back at the chop shop, Common vs. Wick drink at the Continental, the $7M assassin contract going out, the art gallery finale, shooting Santino at the Continental (still shocking after 10 viewings), and the Central Park ending.
What aged the best?
- The two unbreakable rules: no blood on Continental grounds, and every marker must be honored. Childlike logic that appeals to the simplest part of our brain.
- The entire Continental mythology and world-building – Soho House for assassins. The coins, the markers, the Sommelier, the tailor.
- The gearing up sequence – the tailor, the Chinese laundromat, the Sommelier fitting him with weapons.
- Ian McShane as Winston – best use of his late-period speechifying. Calls him 'Jonathan.'
- The simplicity of the story in an era of over-plotted Marvel and JJ Abrams movies.
- Setting up the sequel – 'no movie ever set up a sequel better than the end of 'John Wick' 2.'
What aged the worst?
- Point-blank shooting at Wick from 9-10 feet away that never hits him.
- The bulletproof coat scene with Ruby Rose – holds his coat up and it stops all the bullets. 'That part's not great.'
- Jordan Hoffman of The Guardian calling it 'a shameful example of Hollywood gun pornography' – 'Jordan, fuck right off.'
Casting what-ifs
- Ian McShane replaced Jason Isaacs as Winston from the first film.
- Danny Trejo, Steve Buscemi, and Michael K. Williams all should have been in this movie – Buscemi as a Continental guy, Trejo as an assassin, Williams with Fishburne running the 'Motel 6 empire.'
Best "heat check" performance
- Peter Stormare as Abram Tarasov – great 5-minute performance at the top. Swedish actor playing Russian, just like Michael Nyqvist (his 'brother') in the first film.
- Thomas Sadoski as Jimmy the cop – 'Don from The Newsroom.' Gets the Joey Pants Award.
- John Leguizamo as Aurelio the mechanic – almost put in what's aged the worst for the unexplained friendship with Wick.
- Franco Nero as Julius, the Continental manager in Rome – 'Are you here to kill the Pope?'
Over-acting award
- Laurence Fishburne as the Bowery King – 'the most scene-chewing Fishburne ever.' Forest Whitaker was watching and calling his agent.
- Riccardo Scamarcio as Santino – especially the duck-fat fries scene at the Continental.
- Ian McShane – every line is a rhetorical question delivered with maximum gravitas.
Half-assed (internet) research
- Body count: estimated 128.
- Keanu did 95% of his own stunts.
- The DJ at the Rome party is Le Castlevania, who wrote music for both 'John Wick' movies.
- Common has played a contract killer in at least 4 movies.
- Santino means 'little saint.' Lots of religious/biblical terminology throughout.
- The director explained the coins as more of a membership card than currency – 'You don't explain the dollar bill.'
- The Continental TV series was greenlit in January 2018.
Apex Mountain
- Not this movie for Keanu – his apex is Speed or The Matrix. But 'John Wick' might be comeback apex mountain.
- Not anybody else's apex mountain either.
- 'Hardball' joke: G Baby, she lifted us to a higher place only for a second.
Picking nits
- Why didn't Wick kill Tarasov at the beginning? He killed 39 other people but left this guy alive.
- The Commodore 64 computer – 'I don't think any computer from 1999 works at this point.'
- 'John Wick' always has more bullets. Thousands of cartridges that never fall out while he's rolling around in a tailored suit.
- All the gold coins not rattling around in his pockets alongside the extra magazines.
- How did 'John Wick' get back to Long Island at the end? Walking from Manhattan would take days.
(Probably) unanswerable questions
- Could normal people stay at the Continental? Is it on the AmEx Fine Hotels & Resorts website?
- How much are the gold coins worth? (Director says it's more of a membership card.)
- How many floors is the Continental? Is there layered access for more elite assassins?
- Has there ever been a stronger pencil than the ones Wick uses to kill people?
- Winston (McShane) vs. Winston Wolf (Keitel) – could they be the same character? 'They kind of are.'
- Is Common's Cassian actually dead? We never saw him die.
Who won the movie?
Obviously Keanu. But excluding him: Common – 'made Cassian seem like a cool, important character to the series' despite limited screen time. Almost worthy of fighting Wick.