January 25, 2018

'Good Will Hunting'

The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Shea Serrano, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey go see about a girl and rewatch the 1997 classic 'Good Will Hunting,' starring Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and Robin Williams. They also discuss alternate endings, sequels, and whether 'Good Will Hunting' is the best Boston movie of all time.

Movie poster

Cast

Matt Damon as Will Hunting

Robin Williams as Sean Maguire

Ben Affleck as Chucky Sullivan

Minnie Driver as Skylar

Stellan Skarsgård as Professor Gerald Lambeau

Casey Affleck as Morgan O'Mara

Cole Hauser as Billy McBride

Directed by: Gus Van Sant

Written by: Matt Damon, Ben Affleck

Music by: Danny Elfman

Notes

  • Bill says he's seen this more times than any movie in the last 20 years except maybe 'Boogie Nights'.
  • The original Damon/Affleck script was twice as long and had a CIA spy caper second half. William Goldman's only advice was to cut the government stuff – he did not do a rewrite despite persistent rumors.
  • Terrence Malick suggested the ending where Will chases Skylar to California.
  • Robin Williams ad-libbed the farting wife story and the 'son of a bitch, he stole my line' moment. He also insisted on filming at the real L Street Tavern in Southie.
  • Three thousand people showed up to watch the park bench scene being filmed at the Boston Public Garden.
  • Gus Van Sant painted the painting that Will looks at in Sean's office.
  • Matt Damon was 27 playing a 20-year-old. The film had 9 Oscar nominations and won Best Original Screenplay and Best Supporting Actor (Robin Williams).
  • 1997 was an incredible year for movies – 'Titanic', 'Boogie Nights', 'Good Will Hunting', L.A. Confidential all came out.
  • The Damon/Affleck origin story is compared to 'Rocky'/Stallone – Patrick Whitesell (their agent) got it set up.
  • Affleck's DVD commentary for the film is considered legendary.
  • Elliott Smith performed 'Miss Misery' at the Oscars, losing to Celine Dion's 'My Heart Will Go On.'
  • Debate over whether 'Good Will Hunting' or 'The Departed' is the best Boston movie of all time. Bill picks 'The Verdict' as 1A.
  • The National Lampoon movie about Doug Kenney mentioned in the episode is 'A Futile and Stupid Gesture' on Netflix.

Categories

Most re-watchable scene
  • Chris's pick: the farting wife story – Robin Williams ad-libbed it and the crew's laughter is real.
  • Shea's pick: the ponytail/Clark bar scene – 'How do you like them apples?' Will destroys a Harvard guy and gets the girl's number.
  • Bill's pick: Chucky's construction site speech – 'You know what the best part of my day is? The ten seconds before I knock on your door.' Also loves the playground fight and the park bench scene.
  • Sean's pick: the 'it's not your fault' scene – despite debates about whether Will's breakdown is too fast, it's the most iconic moment in the film.
Casting what-ifs
  • Leonardo DiCaprio and Brad Pitt were going to star when Castle Rock had the project.
  • Mel Gibson wanted to produce and possibly direct.
  • Michael Mann wanted to direct and reportedly pitched a version where Will was a car thief.
  • Chris O'Donnell was Damon's main rival for roles in the mid-'90s before 'Good Will Hunting' changed everything.
What aged the best?
  • The friendships – the Southie crew dynamic feels authentic and lived-in.
  • Matt Damon's performance – he has to play dumb, smart, physical, romantic, and tough, and pulls it all off.
  • The dialogue and quotability – 'How do you like them apples?', 'It's not your fault', 'I gotta go see about a girl.'
  • The Boston accents – widely considered the most authentic of any Boston movie.
  • Elliott Smith's music on the soundtrack.
  • Ben Affleck's wardrobe – peak late-'90s Southie fashion.
What aged the worst?
  • Robin Williams' Boston accent – not great, especially compared to the real Boston guys.
  • Matt Damon's frosted tips.
  • The Miramax logo at the front of the movie (given the Weinstein revelations).
  • The breakup scene between Will and Skylar.
  • Danny Elfman's score – feels wrong for this movie, too whimsical.
  • Beating 'Boogie Nights' for Best Original Screenplay at the Oscars.
Best "heat check" performance
  • Casey Affleck – makes the most of limited screen time as the funniest member of the crew.
  • Cole Hauser – the muscle, always looks like he's about to fight someone.
  • Stellan Skarsgård – brings gravitas to the professor role.
  • Scott William Winters as Clark/ponytail guy – everyone remembers getting humiliated by Will at the Harvard bar.
Over-acting award
  • Scott William Winters as Clark the ponytail guy – leaning all the way into the smug Harvard douche.
  • Damon's crying face in the 'it's not your fault' scene – debated among the hosts. Some think he's overpowered by Williams in that moment.
Picking nits
  • The NSA would recruit a guy with a felony record? That's a stretch.
  • Chucky would have fought ponytail Clark immediately – no way he lets that slide in real Southie.
  • Nobody at MIT solved that equation and just left the answer on the hallway chalkboard? A janitor had to do it?
  • Sean giving up his World Series tickets to talk to a girl – Bill Simmons finds this the most unrealistic part of the movie.
  • The Danny Elfman score doesn't fit the movie at all.
Half-assed (internet) research
  • Damon and Affleck inserted a fake gay sex scene into the script to test which producers actually read it – only Harvey Weinstein flagged it.
  • Robin Williams insisted on using the real L Street Tavern in Southie.
  • Robin Williams ad-libbed the farting wife scene – the camera shaking is from the cameraman laughing.
  • Three thousand people showed up to watch the park bench scene filming at the Boston Public Garden.
  • Terrence Malick suggested the ending where Will drives to California to be with Skylar.
  • Gus Van Sant painted the painting that hangs in Sean's office.
  • William Goldman did NOT rewrite the script despite persistent Hollywood rumors – he only told them to drop the CIA subplot.
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?

Extensive discussion of a Netflix limited series version – the CIA second half of the original script could become a whole second season. First season is the therapy/MIT story, second season Will gets recruited by the government.

(Probably) unanswerable questions
  • Where is Will Hunting in 2018? Alive, in jail, or dead? The hosts all think he's alive.
  • Does Skylar take him back when he shows up in Palo Alto, or does she say GTFO?
  • Why haven't Damon and Affleck made another movie together?
  • Why wasn't Ben Affleck in 'Ocean's Eleven'?
  • Is this the best Boston movie of all time? (Final three: 'The Departed', 'Good Will Hunting', 'The Verdict'.)
Who won the movie?
  • Shea's pick: Robin Williams – it's his best performance, and 'it's not your fault' will be at the center of any posthumous tribute montage.
  • Bill and Chris's pick: Matt Damon – he has to do everything in this movie (dumb, smart, physical, romantic lead, tough guy, genius) and no one else could have played it. Leo is a great actor but would be missing 5% of the Boston authenticity.