March 04, 2019
'Forgetting Sarah Marshall'
The Ringer's Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey take a trip to Hawaii to try and get over the 2008 hit comedy 'Forgetting Sarah Marshall,' starring Jason Segel, Mila Kunis, and Kristen Bell.

Cast
Jason Segel as Peter Bretter
Kristen Bell as Sarah Marshall
Mila Kunis as Rachel Jansen
Russell Brand as Aldous Snow
Jonah Hill as Matthew the Waiter
Paul Rudd as Kunu/Chuck
Bill Hader as Brian Bretter
Directed by: Nicholas Stoller
Written by: Jason Segel
Notes
- 85% on Rotten Tomatoes. $105 million worldwide ($63 million domestic). Produced by Judd Apatow, who told Jason Segel his first draft should be a drama – they'd improv the comedy. 60-70% scripted, 30-40% improvised.
- Based on Jason Segel's real breakup with Linda Cardellini (and three other unspecified breakups). The naked breakup didn't involve Cardellini, but one girlfriend did break up with him while naked. Rather than being devastated, he thought 'this is hilarious, I can't wait for her to leave so I can write this down.'
- Mila Kunis originally auditioned for 'Knocked Up', lost the role to Katherine Heigl, but Apatow filed her away and she got this instead. You can make the case this has aged the best of any Apatow comedy from the 2000s.
- The Aldous Snow role was originally written with Charlie Hunnam in mind (from Undeclared). Got entirely rewritten for Russell Brand.
- Segel's original idea was to make Dracula the Musical as a puppet musical. Apatow said 'that's not a movie, that's a funny part in your movie.' This led to Segel eventually writing The Muppets (2011).
- The 'Inside of You' song was created because Segel wanted 'the worst song your girlfriend's new boyfriend can sing in front of you.' The naked Mila Kunis picture in the bathroom was created on computer – not real.
- The shrewd 'I Hate Sarah Marshall' billboard campaign was memorable – billboards around LA that seemed like a slam page, not a movie ad. The full-frontal scene in the first 10 minutes drove huge awareness.
- The waiter from the buffet who later punches Jason Segel is Kalani Robb, a real pro surfer from Momentum Generation.
Categories
Most re-watchable scene
- Peter at the club with Bill Hader after the breakup – 'This place smells like strippers perfume. I'm going to get herpes just from sitting on this couch.'
- The first Skype call with Hader from Hawaii where his wife is clearly there but he swears she's not.
- The Dracula musical – the first time he plays it in Hawaii for Mila Kunis. 'You know, I could play something else.'
- The double date that goes off the rails near the end.
- Jonah Hill going off on Russell Brand.
- Every single thing Paul Rudd does as Kunu – the coral in the leg, the Kaiser Permanente callback, the surfing lesson, the hike.
- Peter and Aldous meeting on surfboards and getting back to the beach with the reef injury.
- The montage of Peter being a bum at his house in the same sweatpants for five days, singing that sad piano song about having to go to a psychiatrist.
What aged the best?
- The title – 'Forgetting Sarah Marshall' is an awesome title. Memorable, explains the movie, and you could see them having called it 'The Breakup' in lesser hands.
- Turtle Bay – one of those movies where you just want to be there.
- Bill Hader in an early role. His career has obviously changed but every moment he's on screen you're all the way in.
- The celebrity appendage boyfriend concept – the person in the Us Weekly photo next to the famous person.
- The 'Do Something' song – just realistic enough that it could be a real song, with different words posted on it including 'sodomy.'
- Crime Scene: Scene of the Crime and Animal Instincts – the show-within-a-show stuff is genius. Billy Baldwin is so game. The Seinfeld bass line over the crime scene stuff.
- The salary cap cast – Jonah Hill in 4 scenes, Jack McBrayer, Paul Rudd, Kristen Wiig in a deleted scene. Unreal depth.
What aged the worst?
- The movie drags about 15 minutes in the middle.
- The Jack McBrayer sex plot line is funny but doesn't have bearing on Peter's story – it's a 20-minute detour. Would have preferred more Hader, more Jonah Hill, or the Kristen Wiig deleted yoga scene.
- Russell Brand as an American cultural crossover phenomenon – that moment was brief. But he's really good in the actual movie.
Casting what-ifs
- Mila Kunis auditioned for 'Knocked Up', lost the role to Katherine Heigl, but Apatow filed her away for this. Would 'Knocked Up' have been better with Kunis? Heigl isn't funny but works as a specific kind of person in that movie.
- Aldous Snow was originally written with Charlie Hunnam in mind from Undeclared. Got entirely rewritten for Russell Brand.
Best "heat check" performance
- Paul Rudd as Kunu – bats 1.000 in this movie. Every line lands. 'Oh, the weather outside is weather.' The coral in the leg. The Kaiser Permanente callback. He's in like 2 scenes and it's enough to win.
- Jonah Hill – gets his own movie (Get Him to the Greek) from this. Might be in it one scene too much to be eligible. The English accent, getting mad about Jason Segel's plate.
- Other candidates: Jack McBrayer, William Baldwin, the big guys at the bar.
Half-assed (internet) research
- Based on Segel's breakup with Linda Cardellini plus three other unspecified breakups. The naked breakup was real but with a different woman.
- The 'Inside of You' song was designed to be 'the worst song your girlfriend's new boyfriend can sing in front of you.'
- Get Him to the Greek (2010) was the spinoff follow-up with Nicholas Stoller directing, Apatow producing, Russell Brand and Jonah Hill (playing a different character).
- The Mila Kunis bathroom picture was computer-generated – not real.
- Kalani Robb, the pro surfer from Momentum Generation, plays the buffet waiter.
Picking nits
- How famous is Aldous Snow supposed to be? He closes Access Hollywood, he's writing 'the anthem of his generation,' he's going on an 18-month world tour. But he has zero entourage and a normal hotel room. No musician at that level is traveling alone.
- Sarah going to Hawaii so quickly after the breakup – she'd been dating Brand for a year, but it's still a snake move.
- Peter is completely naked in his own unlocked dressing room at the end – who does that?
- Does Hader know Sarah is going to Hawaii when he tells Peter not to go there? The implication is there.
(Probably) unanswerable questions
- Was Dracula the Musical actually a good idea? Segel's original concept was to make a whole movie about it. Apatow turned it into a subplot, but it kind of works. Could be a billion-dollar idea.
- Did Peter and Rachel stay together? Probably not – she's back in Hawaii within 3 months, or her ex-boyfriend shows up in LA.
- How many seasons did Animal Instincts run? About 4.5 – NBC for 3 years, then Fox picks it up for one more year before cancellation.
Sequel, prequel, prestige TV or untouchable?
No. It's good as a movie.
Who won the movie?
- Jason Segel – because he also wrote it. The movie is permeated by his weird personality, interests, and vulnerability, which changes how he's viewed going forward (you can't be an action star after this). It got him The Muppets.
- Mila Kunis is a strong second – from this moment on she becomes a star. Her character is thinly written on paper (bad relationship, dropped out of college, works at a hotel) but Kunis makes her the most likable person in the movie.
- In the running for best rom-com of the last 12 years. A male-perspective rom-com with Dick humor that's still ultimately about two people finding each other.